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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $10(BB) Replayer
Hero ($2,809)
BB ($2,683)
BTN ($2,549)

BB antes $2
BTN antes $2
Hero antes $2

Dealt to Hero 9 9 8 8

BTN raises to $30, Hero raises to $106, fold, BTN raises to $334, Hero calls $228

FLOP ($684) Q 6 K

Hero checks, BTN checks

TURN ($684) Q 6 K 4

Hero bets $380, BTN calls $380

RIVER ($1,444) Q 6 K 4 3

Hero bets $980

Problem with river is you can't rep sets anymore. Seems pretty reasonable to check back AAxxss because the majority of the time you are either going to have KQ, QQ, KK or be drawing pretty slim(double pairs, 789x) (Some combos of hands that he'd miss value from (JT9, QJt, QJ9.), but it seems enticing to check AAxxss bc 95% of players in your spot are going to bluff turn or river spades. Calling ranges should be pretty inelastic on river, so bet less(783!)...or even less(569) to pretend like you are pimping out the kings and queens.

I know who you are now I will reply to the hand later.

BMGB was more tilty and dumb than l2pu. Who knew they were the same player though. :\

thats okay you could have just asked and i would have told you

I don´t know how light you excactly 3bet but i think given board run out the spade is good for us - although we can´t/might perceived not vbet any 2pair/set anymore we still have way more flushes in our range if(?) we lead most Fd´s on turn?

That said i have no clue how much people chk back flop with FD´s or how cally they are on river on 5/10 nor how thin you are perceived to vbet....but in vaccum i´d assume that if we bet turn river should be clear bet in my opinon without any fiurther infos.

and hero is supposed to have ?
I think you overthink this hand after he checks back flop, dont like it
that flop hits hard our 3bet/4bet-call range and i think he checks back AAxxss here decent amount of time just for the same reason that if you missed this flop completely then just to give you a chance to take a stab at it imo

Well... no.

I don't like it. The flop check indicates a desire to realize equity (too strong to b/f, too weak to b/c), so I don't think you're gonna get a lot of folds on the turn, particularly with the small sizing you chose. You're setting yourself up for a ton of double barrels, OOP, with very little visibility and very poor equity against his range.

well what i meant was, that he checks back more often with valuehands than he does w little equity hands, if he doesnt have it he´ll just b/f as if he had AKQx type hands + cause the cbet is so awkward that it gives villain almost a chance to shove, therefore id check some part of my range on this flop and give villain a chance to take a stab at it if he missed completely[if i was villain in this hand]
i think its suicide to try and rep something after we check flop, i would rather lead the flop and go from there if i wanted to try something sexy, but then again i dont play deep tables

A lot of flush combos? I am not saying i´m in love with turn play but i think betting turn and not bluffing (THAT) river is bad.

I really doubt villain shows up with many flushes i mean: How many flushes are left in his range that arent strong in enough to b/c flop in 4bet pot with spr of 3?

i just dont dig it,
i would contemplate trying it against randoms, but against good thinking players id just c/f, is pre standard this deep being oop anyway? would rather play a big pot oop w hands that flop decent..
i just like this line for value,not as a bluff, cause we get herocalled so much.. if id bluff id just lead the flop, am not really a fan of this

your not going to take this line with a set too often in his mind so your range on river is very polarized and I think you'll get looked up light here a little too often. This is not a good river card to bluff. also consider many times he will have AA here and half those times he will have a spade and he is more likely to call light in those spots.

Dunno about the dumb remark, maybe its just a learning curve. Still a tiltbox though

I think a regulars (my) range is pretty much aaxx/akxx or other weakish value hands with my flop check there. The guys commenting on me checking back aaxx(ss) are just????

So i like a turn bet with the intention to bet most rivers as well if you get called. I only dislike your sizing, i would just go >500. You have so little fold equity with this very small bet. Only hand i might fold is aaxx without a spade. Really can't think of another hand i would 4bet with, but fold to a half pot bet.

On the river i also dislike your sizing. Your right in thinking i basically never have a flush there. Ofcourse i can occasionally play a(s)6(s)78 like that, but thats just a fraction of my range. Most flush draws have additional merits on the flop and just get it in on the flop. So i think it is an awsome 2nd barrel card for you. I would however either bet about 700 or pot'ish. I think 700 does the same as your 980, and pot'ish might fold out my occasional straights or other funky hands i might call with.

In this hand i had aa33 with the ace of spades and called it off.

Yeah...