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5-10 50BB BI CAP - Hate this spot 5-10 50BB BI CAP - Hate this spot

10-07-2016 , 10:52 AM
Hero's perceived image should be tight/solid. I lost the 1st hand in the BB with 789Tss in a single raised pot on a 56AK3 board to MPs AKxx (AIOF).

Game is 5/10 on ACR, the 50BB CAP tables.

MP started off loose, played about 40-50 hand so far, he's tightened up a bit for the next 10 or so hands... Could just be card dead but who knows.

BTN is an open book player, seems a little stationy pre, very predictable after the flop.

MP raises to $35 (~$750)
BTN calls $35 (~$400)
Hero calls in the BB (~$520) with KQT8 (is this standard or should we be at least 100 BB deep to call here?)

Flop: J88 (~$110)

Hero checks, MP (PFR) bets ~$60, BTN folds, Hero ?

We have $485 effective, $425 after his bet. Hate shallow games, but this game was juicy.

What's our play here based on stack sizes? What's our play with 100BB?

I say I hate this spot mainly because of stack sizes. We make our hand face up if we raise and we really just get value out of weaker 8's which is a really tiny part of his range. We fold out worse, and we block Q/T straightening cards as they boat us up. I've seen this spot a lot and I'm just not sure whats the best play.
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10-07-2016 , 01:33 PM
w 50bb just c/r to like 155 and go from there imo

Last edited by lolposting2016; 10-07-2016 at 01:50 PM.
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10-08-2016 , 08:39 PM
x/r here is fine if you intend to work in some x/r bluffs in this spot
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10-09-2016 , 06:18 AM
Call or x/r both fine, it helps us plan better if we can predict if mp is likely to continue firing the turn on a blank.. the majority of turn cards will be non threatening to us and x/r should only fold out worse except maybe worse 8s.. donking the turn also can be very effective and make it hard for some opponents to put us on the correct ranges

I prefer call
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10-09-2016 , 03:57 PM
I play live 2/5 Omaha and online 0.5/1 to 1/2.


Calling/folding is fine with 50bb with KQT8 one suit at K even if we are oops. it s a fairly decent medium strength hand.

having 50bb limits your RIO with K high suit imo.

as played, even vs A8xx you have 13 outs (if we exclude him having A89x or your blockers).

only 7 is a bad card for us. as any other card completing a straight would complete our full house or straight (except for A but in that case we are behind OTF anyway).

Having Specifically KQT in our hands with Specifically a J going with the 88 on the flop

I lean toward a call OTF,

OTT, i would check/call 9/7/6 - bet 1/3 on other RAG card/club / if we make full house , - 2/3 on other suit cards
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10-11-2016 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Alsi
I play live 2/5 Omaha and online 0.5/1 to 1/2.


Calling/folding is fine with 50bb with KQT8 one suit at K even if we are oops. it s a fairly decent medium strength hand.

having 50bb limits your RIO with K high suit imo.

as played, even vs A8xx you have 13 outs (if we exclude him having A89x or your blockers).

only 7 is a bad card for us. as any other card completing a straight would complete our full house or straight (except for A but in that case we are behind OTF anyway).

Having Specifically KQT in our hands with Specifically a J going with the 88 on the flop

I lean toward a call OTF,

OTT, i would check/call 9/7/6 - bet 1/3 on other RAG card/club / if we make full house , - 2/3 on other suit cards
I have to say, this was my exact thought process.

I called and the turn was an A

Based on effective stack sizes, does it make sense to bet or hope he bets and we get it in?
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10-11-2016 , 01:45 PM
I would donk 1/3 pot,if you are seen as tight then u might have a 8 there, (calling TP J oop OTF from tight player it should be less than 50%, with J u would either lead or x/fold)

if you check he can check back easy. and correct play for him would be check or fold river without trips or better if you are THE tight.

however, this is also a spot for him to put pressure on you: if he raised with Axxx there are now less A out, you will just keep guessing whether he has A8 if he barrels turn+river...

again I am not a good player at omaha, overall I might be little positive with dealer choice (ok there are some nights I am spewy).

I would bet 1/3 pot , and 1/3 pot OTR any river and fold to raise.
because the hand should end here as we rep a 8 and vilain if not spewy should not raise as back.
if I make Quads OTR I can consider hollywood a 1/2 pot-POT, hoping any PP to call.

regarding one of member s comment on playing another way"for balance"
do you really need to balance in this hand? live players you dont always meet the same , would you really bluff this kind of spot OOP often?

Last edited by Alsi; 10-11-2016 at 01:50 PM.
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