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03-09-2017 , 09:23 AM
Hi guys, I mainly play NL and need more work on my PLO game.

Plying 5/10 online on a soft untracked site that plays very much like live.

6-max effective stacks 1k
Utg+1 opens
Utg+2 and Btn call
Hero calls in SB with Ah2h2cKc
BB calls

Flop Qc 4c 3c
Checks to initial raiser who bets 80 into 150
Utg+2 raises to 210
Hero? Easy laydown?

Rather new to the table so no reads yet
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03-10-2017 , 07:54 PM
Yea with no reads I just lay it down.
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03-11-2017 , 04:21 AM
Start with smaller blinds if you are learning as it's a completely different game


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03-11-2017 , 05:46 PM
Why can't we call again? Assuming guy betting out half pot doesn't have much of a hand. We have good flush draw and gutter?

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03-12-2017 , 06:33 PM
a raise on this board is done a lot with lone Ac. depending on the players i probably peel a turn and bet/check riase paired boards if checked to assuming UTG +2 folds
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03-12-2017 , 08:46 PM
I expect we have the best hand here a lot....Can get away from it if they triple barrel

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03-13-2017 , 04:08 AM
Don't really get the comments in this thread.

UTG c-bet into 3 players on a monotone board. And MP re-raised with 2 players left to act.

It's clear that one of them has at least the bare Ace of clubs. And when they do have the Ace of clubs, they're much more likely to have the nut flush than the bare Ace (tight ranges found in UTG and MP obviously prefer suited aces).

So it's a clear fold. Yea, you are getting bluffed some % of the time, but they have it often enough. And if they're competent, they'll deny you all of your equity even when they're bluffing.

People who are saying call are being way too optimistic. Your really expect both players to be stone bluffing with no nut blocker in their hand? That's literally the only thing we're hoping for. And yes, I realize that maybe 5-10% of the time both might have nothing. But the other 90-95% of the time you're crushed or they have the nut blocker which will allow them to bluff you out of the pot on later streets, making this a trivial fold.
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03-15-2017 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DeKs
Why can't we call again? Assuming guy betting out half pot doesn't have much of a hand. We have good flush draw and gutter?

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Read the hand again.
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03-15-2017 , 10:35 PM
put me in the camp that says lay it down
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03-16-2017 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bartowitcz
put me in the camp that says lay it down
Yea the more people talk about this hand, I'm starting to think that's probably best as well

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03-16-2017 , 05:48 PM
yes fold
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03-18-2017 , 06:53 PM
I'm assuming you're playing at Ignition or ACR. Yes, the players are not great but you should drop down to .25/.50 or .50/1.00. Trust me, the downswings and mistakes will hurt less.
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03-22-2017 , 03:54 PM
With no reads I definitely think it's a fold.
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