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10-29-2011 , 06:54 AM

GotBluffing

centurion

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB) Replayer
Hero ($520)
BB ($344)
UTG ($160)
UTG+1 ($811)
CO ($537)
BTN ($400)

Dealt to Hero 9

fold, fold, CO raises to $12, BTN raises to $42, Hero raises to $142, fold, CO calls $130, BTN calls $100

FLOP ($430) T

Hero???

CO is a fish, BUT is a reg who plays his buttons extremely agrressive, 3betting around 15% here I guess (I saw him 3betting DS crap OTB) so decided to make a bit loose 4bet preflop.

I'm a bit confused on the flop... Just shove and hope?

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10-29-2011 , 07:04 AM

urubu111

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2pair and double gutter its a no brainer shove.

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10-30-2011 , 07:40 AM

wazz

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would puke, jam, and close my eyes

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10-30-2011 , 05:54 PM

HitmanDK

grinder

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Very easy jam with $ 258 left in stack.

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10-30-2011 , 07:43 PM

JustAmazing777

adept

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Jeah I believe shove is the obv. play here but Im not sure about preflop. I mean I would def. like this 4bet with this hand but beeing ds but singlesuited Im not sure. I would tend towards just folding this single suited actually...

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10-30-2011 , 07:48 PM

krmont22

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entire hand is fine

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10-31-2011 , 07:46 AM

Lee Jones

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I don't like the PF 4-bet. If either of the earlier raisers has aces, we're going to be be sick. That ace in our hand crushes our ability to out-flop aces. And even if they don't have aces, I mean, what are you hoping to accomplish? You've just created a massively bloated pot OOP and then when you hit the flop somewhat hard, you're confused about what to do.

If I really think that CO is clueless and button over-aggro, then maybe - maybe - I call and plan to either shove or check-shove the flop.

Four-betting pre seems to create a giant mess for no reason.

Regards, Lee

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10-31-2011 , 08:00 AM

wazz

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4b is good, we're ahead of both CO and BTNs ranges by a decent amount, flop very well with this hand, dominating a lot of their calling ranges, and are only 'in trouble' to AA. calling is fine as well but taking control of the pot, as well as having a wider 4b range than AA, are both important.

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10-31-2011 , 02:45 PM

chinaski101

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like the 4bet pre. Flop you can shove, or check/evaluate to see if both get it in, not much in it.

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10-31-2011 , 08:26 PM

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krmont22

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the 4b pre is mandatory

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10-31-2011 , 09:14 PM

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j.a.o.p.

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Originally Posted by krmont22

the 4b pre is mandatory

def not!

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11-01-2011 , 06:59 PM

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AB_illusive

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I like it, wp! (shove flop ofc)

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