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350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board 350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board

04-27-2015 , 10:46 PM
Stacks: 1.7k effective

Game is 1-2-5
8 handed

Main vilain SB: Don't have a lot of history with him, tattooed up, looks like/might be a drug dealer. he's pretty loose preflop but hasn't gone out of line post flop yet. I'm assuming he's some sort of semi-fish.

Hero (straddle): Been to the table for 30 minutes, but has played 75% of the hands, and winning all of them without showdown even though I had the goods everytime. Vilain might think I'm more aggro than I actually am


utg limps
Btn raises to 20 (tightish reg)

Vilain SB flats 20
Hero straddle: pots to 85 with AhQdQh2d
utg and btn folds
Vilain SB flats

Pot (195) Jh3d5s

Vilain checks, I bet 140, Vilain snap raises to 515 (vilain actually said pot! and dealer told him it was 515, I later realized it was 615 but the mistake wasn't corrected during the hand)
Hero??

Last edited by ziggyzaooo; 04-27-2015 at 11:06 PM.
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
04-27-2015 , 11:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ziggyzaooo

Don't have a lot of history with him, tattooed up, looks like/might be a drug dealer.
damn stereotypes
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
04-28-2015 , 05:06 AM
Fold
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
04-28-2015 , 06:50 AM
looks like a fold
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
04-28-2015 , 06:32 PM
i'd check this back - not really a good hand to bet and you will hate getting raised.

As played just fold - you are against a set / 2 pair - or a low wrap - and you will hate every turn card except and A or a Q.
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
04-29-2015 , 04:41 PM
such a gross sport as this is usually a pretty easy stackoff vs reasonable not moneyscared opponents but usually these 1/2 guys are way too nitty

guess id still stackoff but 0sehgsrgsegüesg
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
04-30-2015 , 04:23 AM
Fold don't think your ever ahead in the described scenario.
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
05-01-2015 , 04:25 PM
was this played at the hardrock in hollywood fl? if so i know who villain is

in regards to the hand, i'd be getting this in
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05-02-2015 , 07:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by look at me now
was this played at the hardrock in hollywood fl? if so i know who villain is

in regards to the hand, i'd be getting this in
no this wasn't played at the hard rock
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
05-03-2015 , 07:22 AM
Its 1.7K effective; why in gods name would you get it in

You have a pair of queens...,,

Trivial fold
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
05-04-2015 , 09:23 AM
you can never get this in w/o more solid reads than "potential drug dealer".
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
05-04-2015 , 12:20 PM
you might want to get it in against extreme good players but against this type of guy (who might does not realize that this is a good board texture for his move i lay it down)
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
05-04-2015 , 05:16 PM
this would be a pretty easy fold in a two card game.
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
05-08-2015 , 11:04 AM
just fold
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
05-08-2015 , 11:32 AM
looks like fold
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
05-09-2015 , 02:01 PM
Nvm
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
05-10-2015 , 03:01 PM
Folding seems pretty bad w/o reads. We have >30% against an absolutely premium range.
Then again it's live poker and ppl might actually be so extremely nitty.
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05-12-2015 , 02:52 PM
Foldddd, hand is way too vulnerable and we are way too deep to be getting this in. People tend to play pretty loose preflop but post flop are more nitty. No need to get it in here, we can find better spots
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
05-17-2015 , 05:05 AM
Result if anyone is curious:

I folded and he showed J879 no bd flush
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
05-31-2015 , 12:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by djevans
i'd check this back - not really a good hand to bet and you will hate getting raised.

As played just fold - you are against a set / 2 pair - or a low wrap - and you will hate every turn card except and A or a Q.
I agree. The board hits his range more than yours. unless you're fine B/f your range here always I'd rather use your position and take a free card

There are 17-20 cards that improve your equity on turn and you get to decide what you want to do after turn hits and he acts
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
06-02-2015 , 03:35 AM
No one wants to defend our 2 bdfd's, guttor, and overset draw?
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
06-08-2015 , 04:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ziggyzaooo
Result if anyone is curious:

I folded and he showed J879 no bd flush
You should not be results oriented.

As played, fold. Best line, check back flop and assess from there.
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06-19-2015 , 07:10 AM
Quote:
Vilain checks, I bet 140, Vilain snap raises to 515 - Hero??


If we include the standard 2 pair, wraps and pair + nutshot (53+,764+,3+:67+) there is a slight -EV to shoving. Calling improves your overall EQ a little if villain shoves all turn cards since you can safely fold the 2,6 and 7 that does not give you BD FD. But it also gives villain the opportunity to XF when his 2 pairs are counterfeited etc, so I still think it is a fold vs. that range.

If you start adding some top pair + 3 connected overcards like J: ([K-9][K-9][K-9]) to villains range it starts to tip and now shoving becomes quite heavy +EV (~135).

/Nikolaj

Link to PKJ file
350BB deep, I got the overpairrrr but vilain going cuckoo on dry board Quote
06-27-2015 , 09:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerJuicer


If we include the standard 2 pair, wraps and pair + nutshot (53+,764+,3+:67+) there is a slight -EV to shoving. Calling improves your overall EQ a little if villain shoves all turn cards since you can safely fold the 2,6 and 7 that does not give you BD FD. But it also gives villain the opportunity to XF when his 2 pairs are counterfeited etc, so I still think it is a fold vs. that range.

If you start adding some top pair + 3 connected overcards like J: ([K-9][K-9][K-9]) to villains range it starts to tip and now shoving becomes quite heavy +EV (~135).

/Nikolaj

Link to PKJ file
What about sets?
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06-28-2015 , 08:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by friedrice88
What about sets?
They are included in the 53+ range.

Complete OO range is: ($FI30)!($3b8o): ((53,J3,J5,33,55,JJ),(764,A642,642),(3,44,5,66-TT,J,QQ-AA,53,J3,J5,33,55,JJ): (76,74,42,64),J:[K-9][K-9][K-9]!99-KK)
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