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Utg raise 25.fish who reraises 40% Makes it 100. I flat. I'm in position on them

4 ways

J76d - 1 diamond

Guy leads 175 fish reraiser Call I call

Turn kd.

Checks to me.

Pot is 1010

I have 3k they both cover

Have double gutter pair and nut fd. Normally I'd check back but they players are born t fly at all and I feel I have good fold equity. They are leading sets and 2 pairs 100%. I think a bet could fold out king x, maybe even get value from worse draws.

I pot turn

I get 1 call from the fish after some contemplating. River is a blank 4. Check?

Flop seems meh. Turn I see no reason to full pot

flop it was less then half pot, 2 of my 3 two pairs make straights, maybe i pick up a bd fd? perhaps its a fold. potted turn because i believe it significantly decreases chances of them calling with kx or whatever they have vs a 2/3 bet. i do not need to worry about being exploited by them from this unbalance either.

Looks like you are getting called a lot on blank rivers, better to check turn since you didnt raise flop.

i'm never folding the flop at these stacks- top pair nut gutter back door nut flush draw back door broadway draw- i might even raise depending on the players in the hand and whether or not the guy will fold aces on this flop. however raising is very dependent on their fold frequnecies and whether the middle guy would flat a set here, how he plays draws and how much gamble he has in him with a draw if you raise. hands with decent equity have to fold a lot bc they're in a spot where they're never a huge favorite and often over a barrel and you're almost never in that situation. really we can't give a great answer with zero information on the players involved.

i actually like betting this turn but i'd mix it up between checking and betting

easy 4bet preflop.

Turn we have a decision to bet or check given tendencies.

River is a shove.

Yep, after your turn action you gotta unload the clip. You block JJJ and i doubt he was calling with a naked KK on the flop. You can probably fold out a smaller set with this line as youre acting strong.

given their tendancies i figured bet since i think they are pretty capped and would never check a set or KJ to me. with that in mind, whats the point of a river bet? maybe we fold out a k89x? some top pair and a draw. or is there more ev in taking the showdown with the jack.

just realized your title says 300 bb but you say you have 3k and they cover

which is it?

Just assumed there was a straddle in play which usually happens in the 5-5 games i play.

I just give my opinion just for seeing showdowns in omaha. A jack is not much of a showdown value, at least not in omaha.

I put this hand in my 4b range. If I didn't I would put it in my flop raise range. If I don't do either it plays bad imo but I guess u can barrel twice if straights don't hit if u have a slow play range in this spot otf which is reasonable this deep in position. Just don't like it cause this isn't the way to exploit the fish best as he will call too often vs this line.

could of 3 bet preflop. but i dont 3 bet too much and would rather not have an A in my hand when i do it? plus i thought that this plays fine post flop multi way.

What?

Confirm, op is a just a random.

Yea not sure that logic ... Id always want a blocker.

essentially would be my first 3 bet, technically a 4 bet...

so they will put me on aces. id rather not have high cards in my hand since that is what they put me on. maybe this is bad thinking? but i know they will put me on aces, why do it with one in my hand then for the first time when i have a hand that flops well?

if getting 3 bet is your concern (which its not here) in terms of having an aa blocker to AA, i think just having a hand that flops well vs AA is fine too

the problem is a TON people's 3 betting range live at these stakes is 99.9 % aces. so if one of these guys 3 bet having the ace in your hand really doesn't mean much bc when they 3 bet they still almost always have aces so you're hand is in a lot worse shape with the ace in your hand than without. these same people won't 3 bet 8910j double suited but will 3 bet rag ass aces 400 blinds deep turning their hand face up 5 ways when it doesn't play well post flop.

against actual good players who 3 bet a lot i agree i'd rather have the ace when i cold 4 bet for blocker reasons.

Even if you you raised and got reraised, your hand has a ton of equity against AAxx and almost every range. you have position which makes it even easier to play. You should be raising this pre 90%+ of the time.

The 3better is a "fish who reraises 40%" so we're doing well vs him and having the A blocker is good

Maybe 50/50 bluff or check a weak fish maye see a large pot on the river as you caught trip 4s and fold pr K , or his call of the turn pot has a hand he is going all the way with and your pr Js is no good. Surly the standard line of you are drawing miss and check fold is always correct gainst a very bad player, you play for what they call another time later when you do hit the flush and he calls a massive pot river bet, give and take you see.

i agree. i somehow missed that in the op. 4 bet him all day.