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10-14-2011 , 06:09 AM

Enon

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I'm still a plo donk, please help guys. Opponent is good tough thinking player.

Poker Stars $25/$50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 3 players
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Hero (SB): $16347.50
p3rc4 (BB): $5049.00
Lance84 (BTN): $10599.00

Pre Flop: ($75.00) Hero is SB with 5

Lance84 raises to $125, Hero raises to $425, p3rc4 calls $375, Lance84 calls $300

Flop: ($1275.00) 8

(3 players)
Hero bets $650, p3rc4 folds, Lance84 calls $650

Turn: ($2575.00) 4

(2 players)
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10-14-2011 , 07:14 AM

MauriceSch

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Pretty easy bet/fold imo

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10-14-2011 , 07:16 AM

wazz

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3b is bad, I might even fold pre depending on how p3rc4 is playing. Would definitely barrel the turn as played.

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10-14-2011 , 07:18 AM

bigpotpoker

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This hand plays really bad, especially oop.

For me, I wouldn't 3bet pre, i'd be more inclined to fold, maybe flat.

OTF I cbet, but there are so many bad turns for our hand, and we really can't continue. This turn is not the worst turn either, i'd bet like 1650 and fold to a raise, and check most rivers unless we boat up.

I think his most likely range would be Q with overs and some sort of gutter.

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10-14-2011 , 03:46 PM

ebarnet

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Originally Posted by bigpotpoker

I think his most likely range would be Q with overs and some sort of gutter.

If that's a big part of his range, bet/fold is bad.

The rest of your post is good tho.

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10-14-2011 , 09:42 PM

praios

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opponent is also not the best one in plo. for me its also an easy b/f turn

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10-14-2011 , 10:29 PM

ebarnet

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why is bet fold> check fold

With stack sizes we can rep a CRAI hand

bet/fold gets us blown out by KQhh9T

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10-14-2011 , 10:56 PM

Doorbread

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Originally Posted by wazz

3b is bad, I might even fold pre depending on how p3rc4 is playing. Would definitely barrel the turn as played.

o_O wat

b/f turn ofc also flop sizing is whack

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10-15-2011 , 04:40 PM

MauriceSch

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Yeah missed that part of the hand, gotta go way bigger imo.

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10-15-2011 , 05:22 PM

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wazz

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Yer 850-1k imo

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10-15-2011 , 10:20 PM

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The Bear Jew

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anyone like ck calling leading hearts? soulreading bricks?

are you getting it in OTF vs p3rc4? you gotta fold right?

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10-15-2011 , 10:47 PM

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wazz

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what do you mean ck calling leading hearts?

river is a check-soulread on anything other than a 7 or 8 when it's a bet-soulread.

folding vs p3rc4 on the flop, we don't have good equity vs anything that wants to get it in.

just saw this:

bet/fold gets us blown out by KQhh9T

we're 43% vs that hand.

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10-16-2011 , 12:25 AM

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ebarnet

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Originally Posted by wazz

And? we fold w/ 43% equity that seems bad.

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10-16-2011 , 12:37 AM

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The Bear Jew

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Originally Posted by wazz

what do you mean ck calling leading hearts?

I re-read hand history. I mean I would check call turn because I think we have enough equity to call the turn barely and I would suggest leading hearts as a bluff because I think we easily rep turned oesfd or something w/ kk/aa that got pot control 200bb deep on str8 card.

What do you mean what do i mean?

Are you just saying that you think bluffing river makes no sense or ck calling makes no sense?

I dont by all means think thats best line for certain my 6m game is certainly super rusty and not sharp...I was just wondering what people thought of the line...it was one of my first thoughts...but still felt meh...but everything feels meh.

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10-16-2011 , 12:51 AM

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Doorbread

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he chk this turn too often for that line and our hand is vulnerable

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10-16-2011 , 11:33 AM

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wazz

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Originally Posted by ebarnet

And? we fold w/ 43% equity that seems bad.

if KQT9hh is the bottom of his range and we're an underdog to it, and he has sets in his range (which he surely does), we're completely toast. we're not really concerned with our equity vs one hand.

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10-16-2011 , 05:00 PM

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urubu111

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i like what the idiot posted. agree w him.

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10-16-2011 , 05:14 PM

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The Bear Jew

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am i the idiot?

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10-19-2011 , 10:25 AM

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Stinger88

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I think I'd lean toward bet/fold since we have blockers to several of his hands that would raise turn and getting a fold is a great result due to our vulnerability. I don't think c/c bluff heart is a terrible line but I think we give too many free cards to hands that have 35-40% equity but would fold turn. Also flop bet needs to be bigger and preflop is too loose imo.

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10-19-2011 , 11:47 PM

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AB_illusive

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I like everything Stinger said.

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10-20-2011 , 06:14 AM

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Enon

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Thanks for the advice all. I ended up betting too much on turn like 2.1k and folded to a shove. Really enjoying the challenge of improving my game and starting to play more straight plo tables 3/6-1020.

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10-21-2011 , 12:12 AM

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Enon

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Also, for those who think it's a pf fold, if my hand is ds does it become playable? How about 8764 with one suit?

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10-21-2011 , 12:16 AM

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PartyGirlUK

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They're both playable but I'd only consider reraising the first one.

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