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Old 02-07-2012, 05:58 PM   #1
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20/40/80 Vs Good LAG

The game has been playing 3-handed for at least a couple hours with the BB on the Btn. Villain is one of the biggest winners in the history of online poker but mostly in lowball. We've had a super aggro dynamic with tons of bluffraising, 3 and 4B bluffing dry and lockdown flops, etc. I'd stacked villain about 4 times for 5K each in the past 90 minutes and he bluffed off his stack to me two of those times. I just doubled him up in a 4B pot though. Eff. Stacks ~15K

SB folds I raise MB to 260 w/JTx87h Villain calls BB. Flop J72 I chk. Villain bets 400 I make it 1400 he 3000. I?

I checked flop because I'd started to C/F a decent amount due to villain's super high raising frequency and I wanted to let villain know he can't always take the pot after I check. He's seen me C/R once as PFR and then C/F a blank turn after my C/R got called.
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:13 PM   #2
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Re: 20/40/80 Vs Good LAG

Raise again. Obviously don't fold flop at any point.
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Call looks good. See turn. Evaluate. If u raise u lose his bluffs and there aren't a ton of terrible turn cards.
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does he think you are good at poker
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:17 PM   #5
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Call see turn. This hand isn't a great one to c/r. Sets are better since they get queered so less often.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:45 PM   #6
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Call looks good. See turn. Evaluate. If u raise u lose his bluffs and there aren't a ton of terrible turn cards.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:28 PM   #7
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does he think you are good at poker
I think so, I'd been owning him a fair bit over the past couple hours.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:45 PM   #8
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how this is anything but a smooshle the pot button and order a bottle of champagne i have no idea. Calling is a stupid option as whats the plan on a A/K/Q/2? Its also bad because if you peel and check he checks behind most of the time he bricks off the turn. Theres already 1/3 your stack in the middle in a deep game where you likely have the best hand or are freerolling your str8 or two pair outs. Just shove and be happy no matter what the result.

How can you be playing a game with 15k stacks if this is a hard decision?
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:47 PM   #9
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that last bit comes off badly and its not meant too. i dont mean that as an insult just be careful what games your playing in if you dont fully understand what youre doing.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:57 PM   #10
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given your dynamics i think raise
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:43 PM   #11
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how this is anything but a smooshle the pot button and order a bottle of champagne i have no idea. Calling is a stupid option as whats the plan on a A/K/Q/2? Its also bad because if you peel and check he checks behind most of the time he bricks off the turn. Theres already 1/3 your stack in the middle in a deep game where you likely have the best hand or are freerolling your str8 or two pair outs. Just shove and be happy no matter what the result.

How can you be playing a game with 15k stacks if this is a hard decision?
The problem with potting is that I think villain's sizing really polarizes his range. I don't think he uses this sizing with J7. When I pot he folds all his air/gutters/one pair hands (which I expect to be most of his range given my blockers) but when I get action I get it in really bad imo.

I mean, I hate calling too because then I let him realize his equity + give him implied odds when his bluffs get there and pretty much let him play perfectly IP with whatever he has. Folding is out of the question but I hate both of my options.
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Old 02-10-2012, 01:45 AM   #12
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Old 02-10-2012, 09:28 AM   #13
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The problem with potting is that I think villain's sizing really polarizes his range. I don't think he uses this sizing with J7. When I pot he folds all his air/gutters/one pair hands (which I expect to be most of his range given my blockers) but when I get action I get it in really bad imo.

I mean, I hate calling too because then I let him realize his equity + give him implied odds when his bluffs get there and pretty much let him play perfectly IP with whatever he has. Folding is out of the question but I hate both of my options.
its too late to care about what beats you. you said hes spaffed off a few stacks already so just pot and commit. He can easily have JT98 or T987 and squish the money in. You also might get a fold from 22xx once in a very long while. there are the 8 safe turns so it makes life easier to just commit now.
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Old 02-10-2012, 06:16 PM   #15
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Vilain is probably thinking ur bored from his bet don't u think?
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