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Old 05-24-2012, 01:51 AM   #1
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2/4 deep 3b pot turn spot

Villain is 34/18/6. I'm playing 22/16/7. We played an earlier hand where he pot-called off 100+bbs on the turn with TPTK + 2nd nut flush draw vs my set, so he'll know that I'm capable of checking strong hands to him. I don't know that he's especially floaty.

Should we be betting this turn ourselves? If so, sizing? Sorry if this is a basic hand, I'm not used to playing deep.


    $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12964972

    CO: $1,789.65 (447.4 bb)
    BTN: $509.40 (127.4 bb)
    Hero (SB): $1,655.20 (413.8 bb)
    BB: $429 (107.3 bb)
    MP: $767.32 (191.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q A A
    MP folds, CO raises to $14, BTN folds, Hero raises to $46, BB folds, CO calls $32

    Flop: ($96) 2 6 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $66, CO calls $66

    Turn: ($228) K (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $228, Hero folds




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    Old 05-25-2012, 03:41 AM   #2
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    Re: 2/4 deep 3b pot turn spot

    Betting this turn sucks cuz you're gonna be blind as to what hits him on the river. C/c'ing sucks too, he'll be in vbetting heaven. Wp
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    Old 05-26-2012, 12:51 AM   #3
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    Re: 2/4 deep 3b pot turn spot

    this seems like a tough spot cuz the flop is prob not going to hit your pf raising range a lot so he could def be calling with a KKxx type hand, and if you feel like your behind here there are very few rivers that would put you in shape to call a vbet. wp
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    Old 05-26-2012, 05:49 PM   #4
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    Re: 2/4 deep 3b pot turn spot

    ugh....

    ur giving your hand away preflop

    call pre, check raise flop.

    if 3 bet, bet flop, bet turn, fold to shove on turn

    or at least 3 bet and go for check raise on flop or pot control....
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    Old 05-27-2012, 06:33 AM   #5
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    ugh....

    ur giving your hand away preflop

    call pre, check raise flop.

    if 3 bet, bet flop, bet turn, fold to shove on turn

    or at least 3 bet and go for check raise on flop or pot control....
    ahaha. go back to microstakes buddy
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    Old 05-27-2012, 07:11 AM   #6
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    Re: 2/4 deep 3b pot turn spot

    bet turn every time, fold to raise
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    Old 05-27-2012, 08:02 AM   #7
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    ahaha. go back to microstakes buddy
    Haha, I was going to say the aame thing.

    For the hand, I'd bet/fold but I don't think check/folding is bad.
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    Old 05-27-2012, 10:56 AM   #8
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    ahaha. go back to microstakes buddy
    Lol up 80k last 4 weeks on plo

    but thanks
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    Old 05-27-2012, 11:12 AM   #9
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    Re: 2/4 deep 3b pot turn spot

    and lol at check fold turn, such a weak play. You open the door for them to bluff then give up?

    this is why i crush players like you
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    Old 05-27-2012, 11:18 AM   #10
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    Re: 2/4 deep 3b pot turn spot

    Looking forward to more posts by you coolhandluke777
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    Old 05-28-2012, 06:45 AM   #11
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    Re: 2/4 deep 3b pot turn spot

    If we don't have BD diamonds, does anyone ever consider just checking the flop? I realize this isn't going to hit him much so we have a decent amount of FE with a bet, and we have the potential to turn either top set, but besides diamonds A/Q it seems every other turn card is one that we will have to c/f being so deep....even like a deuce he can pretty much always have and we can almost never have....I suppose we can b/f board pairs but if he's good it becomes really easy to bluff us on those cards... thoughts?
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    Old 05-28-2012, 10:53 AM   #12
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    Re: 2/4 deep 3b pot turn spot

    in 2012, people who play plo dont automatically put you on aces when you 3bet them. i would rather check a hand that's less vulnerable and has some equity on perceived bad turns
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    Old 05-30-2012, 12:34 AM   #13
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    Re: 2/4 deep 3b pot turn spot

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    and lol at check fold turn, such a weak play. You open the door for them to bluff then give up?

    this is why i crush players like you
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    Old 05-30-2012, 02:22 AM   #14
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    Re: 2/4 deep 3b pot turn spot

    Just a quick comment from a noob: your 3bet range OOP (which will be lower than <3.5% I presume) totally missed this flop (except for the only combi of T987). Being deep (and maybe even standard) this seems like a check behind, with the main reason you being OOP and having a difficult time on turn and river for bloated pots just as what happened now. I also think opponents are less likely to bluff you because it's easier to call down 2 streets rather than facing 2 barrels after you essentially given up on turn imo..
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    Lol up 80k last 4 weeks on plo

    but thanks
    huge sample brah
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