This is a live 2/2 game with a $5 utg straddle. Effective stacks: $1000 so we're pretty deep. The game is full ring, has been playing loose passive preflop and tighter postflop.

Villain is the only player at the table whose game hero respects. Villain and hero have EXTENSIVE history (we've been playing PLO together for 5+ years) and villain is a very good TAG. He has a WSOP PLO final table under his belt. He is in the hijack.

Hero is the button with A A K 2

3 players call the straddle. Villain raises to $25. Hero 3-bets to $95. It folds around to villain who instantly makes it $250 to go.

Villain's 4-betting range, especially against hero, is EXTREMELY narrow. It basically consists of the case aces, double suited KK with Broadway sidecards and perfect double suited rundowns. In the whole time we've played with villain, we've seen him 4-bet/fold in spots like this precisely never, so if we ship we're definitely getting called.

My question is: how deep do we have to be to just flat the 4-bet and take a flop with a decent AA hand in position? Or are we just getting it in pre always and just run the cards out and see who wins?

Thanks in advance for not trolling me; I know the answer to this is probably pretty obv.

Reasonable rule of thumb is if you can get a third or so of your chips in pre, then snap pot.

In this case he makes it 250. So you can full pot and get 800-900 in the middle

So this spot is trivial. If effective stacks are way more I might consider flatting but prolly not cause you have button.

Id prolly need 5kish effective to consider not full potting it pre.

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his range consist of non aces hands as you say so it's a trivial get in. If his range is only aces then flatting and maybe making him fold bad boards is an option but that's unlikely at this stack depth.

How often does he think you're going to 3-bet him in this spot? If it's not very often, then 3-betting is pretty bad, as he's going to expect you to have AAxx. You don't want him to put you on AAxx, if that is indeed what you have, when you can only raise to 9% of your stack. Now, when you did 3-bet and he 4-bet, it's an easy shove. The weird scenarios where he has the case AA and doesn't like the flop, allowing you to fold him off the chop, are pretty rare. He's usually just going to pot the flop and you're going to chop.

put it in kid and I agree with flytraps analysis. playing face up is not usually a good idea

Villain thinks we're solid postflop but play a little too loose pre. I think 3betting is mandatory lest we invite the limpers in too cheaply, no?

it's live poker. 3 bet is usually aces in live poker and they always put you on aces.

lol...

not a big fan of the 3bet, we're basically isoing the best player at the table with weakk aces.

as played, this seems like a easy gii

Should I post results or does nobody give a ****?

We're all waiting with eager anticipation

We get it in. He has the case AA and boats with his sidecards. Le sigh.

Where do you play? I'd love to be in a live game where 3-bets are nearly always aces.

Not sure AAK2 with suited K2 is a 'weak' aces hand.

I don't mind the 3 bet, but I'm just calling the 4 bet and seeing a flop vs said villain. I don't like shoving and praying tho.

Yes it is, esp against the villain described.

If you say so....who am I to argue?

And you expect me to give up my berry patches for free?

Sweet discussion. I can't imagine why this forum has gone to ****.

Carry on....

If he has your aces counterfeited as often as you think, 5-bet is spew, IMO.