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10-13-2016 , 10:44 AM
I think the cool thing is the announcement, it have to be something depreciative to show he can joke about himself.

Also, they cannot say anymore he is not straddling anymore, even so is only half-straddling.
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10-16-2016 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Derek4real
Hand 1: 2 pair is good. He says, "good call I have one pair" so I show and he mucks. So he probably had a pair and flush draw, or pair and straight draw type hand.

Hand 2: we agreed to run it twice. Both rivers come out 9. I show the straight on both boards and he flips a 9 out of his hand and mucks. I don't really know what this opponent had. Maybe turned top set or something. I don't think he flopped a set but maybe he did. Like I mentioned I consider this player to be very good. Well known guy with over a million in tournament earnings. Given the way the hand played out and knowning he had a 9 in his hand and knowing he is really good at cards... what do you guys think he had?
Anyone have any comments on this... or are we derailed permanantly
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10-17-2016 , 05:50 PM
As a one time event, not straddling in that game is not that bad. But if this was a regular game or if these were people you were going to play with frequently, being the "nitty pro" who doesn't join in the fun is -EV in the long term. Those guys will not give you action, will not invite you to home games and may even "ask" the floor to keep you off the table.

In a world of infinite table selection, meh. In the real world? You're losing money by being a stick in the mud.
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10-17-2016 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey

When I first started playing poker, [...] I also arrived with top 10% of players in respect of logical reasoning.

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2) your post only confirms what I already knew, which is that there is a huge percentage of quite nasty people in poker.
ummmmmmm...

/troll

Would you like a seat at my home game? Its 30 miles away but if you travel in the early morning you can draft in behind the truck traffic and the air is thinner then too.
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10-17-2016 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Derek4real
Anyone have any comments on this... or are we derailed permanantly
Nice attempt to divert attention away from the preflop straddle mistake

Most likely AA9x but I know you know that so I'll say he accidentally exposed 942Q in a final twist to the story.

One thing to consider for the future is instead of the full button straddle offer something of less value so that you can maintain rep without costing too many gto$s. If you can source this item yourself at a lower cost so much the better. A bunch of freshly dug carrots from the garden?
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11-05-2016 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Alsi
-> Hand 1, what hand you put him on? u have 57 as blockers to the straight draw - so it can be as likely he has AQxx than a rundown/1 gapper there? (with the card removal effect)
Preflop agree this hand is garbage, not even about position or situation, 1 gap on top- low rundown with 0 suit.

-> Hand 2, AP I fold turn because even if he does not have 2 pairs at least, we are definitely not >40% against a strong drawing hand with one pair (often the case?)
I tend to try to limit unecessary variance.
Preflop , fold this double hold em hand imo with no nutty potential (suit at K) and you obviously know that the pot is going to go Multi way and our relative position is poor

if ever you want to stick playing, then in case limpers do only cold call 3bet with hands they would have raised themselves with, then please ISO preflop vs LP opener to take the initiative?



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Regarding straddle, in general, I agree straddle is -ev.
Button straddling even in PLO, I do not think it is +EV, because the purpose is to see as much as cheap flop possible IP .

However, I strongly agree with Aceholio , you need to keep the customers happy.
AND MOST IMPORTANT, if you are in a game that everyone straddle, you are playing a bigger limit, either you leave the table or you put straddle simply because:
- 7 hands over 8 (assumed 8handed table) you will be like playing in a higher limit game , so the money you lose in those 7 hands (straddle by other players) will never be caught up when you win at the 8th hand at lower limit ( if you decline to straddle).

ESPECIALLY the 8th hand - your turn to straddle, you are on the BTN (assumed to win more often), so you Want to straddle in this game
Hand 1 the game had just opened and it felt like he was barreling. I called pre because I was maybe a little ansy to play my first hand, i flopped really well but knew how bad my hand plays all in so i just flat called and prayed for a no spade non straight runout and that is what I got. I didn't love the turn or the river but there were definitely worse cards out there that couldve come. I was more worried about AA and QQ really AQ not so much but yes definitely possible.

Hand 2 I knew I was splashing preflop. Had anyone limp backraised in this game yet i would've snap folded. So i payed the 225 to win like 1200 and massive implied odds (i know reverse implied odds come into effect too). Thinking about the call on the flop it looks really bad in hindsight, because he bet into 3 players. If someone had reraised I guess I would've just been lighting over 1000$ on fire this hand buy playing it the way i did. Once we arrive on the turn I tanked for a good 3 minutes. I didn't know the exact odds of my hand against his because he can have alot of hands here I think. People I've talked to about the hand think he had AAJ9, but I really don't think he had that. Seems a little amateurish to try and barrel 3 players with AA on that flop. Anyone want to take a guess at his hand in hand 2?
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