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04-15-2017 , 06:10 AM
Hi . This guys in unknown.
im sure the 3b is good.
Flop c.bet should be good , becouse we are the pre agressor and A high.
- Flop c.b size?
What to do on turn? I dont like life here , we blocking the most strait draws, we have some out anyway , Like 2 :T, 4 :J 2: Q , and 3: K , is 11 out , of course probably is not clear the all , but we need 25% Eq on the turn , and we have some fold Eq aswell.

    Party, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 3 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $26.99 (108 bb)
    Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
    BTN: $17.23 (68.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q T K
    BTN raises to $0.85, SB calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3.40, BTN calls $2.55, SB calls $2.55

    Flop: ($10.20) 2 A T (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $4.50, BTN calls $4.50, SB folds

    Turn: ($19.20) 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $10, BTN calls $9.33 and is all-in

    River: ($37.86) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $37.86 pot ($1.89 rake)
    Final Board: 2 A T 7 4
    Hero showed Q Q T K and won $35.97 ($18.74 net)
    BTN mucked J K 4 Q and lost (-$17.23 net)
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    04-15-2017 , 08:20 AM
    c.bet on the flop is fine in mway pot?
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    04-15-2017 , 09:09 AM
    If I had the button and a player made a weak flop bet like that, I would have raised him. I'd bet 3/4 pot on the flop. Turn bet is perfect as SPR < 1.


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    04-15-2017 , 09:24 AM
    ^This seems solid
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    04-15-2017 , 09:31 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by achalmers
    If I had the button and a player made a weak flop bet like that, I would have raised him. I'd bet 3/4 pot on the flop. Turn bet is perfect as SPR < 1.


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    bet/folding flop?
    whats ur plan on a call flop, then turn on different cards, as the SPR is ridiculous now and the FE is really low?
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    04-15-2017 , 09:38 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MakeAWishh
    bet/folding flop?

    whats ur plan on a call flop, then turn on different cards, as the SPR is ridiculous now and the FE is really low?


    At this point in the hand I can't consider fold equity. I just keep the betting machine running. Had I been raised on the flop, I'd probably fold but this wasn't the case here so because of SPR I'm just putting villain all in because I don't think he has an Ace.


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    04-15-2017 , 03:35 PM
    Looks pretty thin to me

    You don't have to 3bet this hand out of the blinds, defending with a call to have a smaller SPR on the flop is fine

    What are your stats on villains F3B and FCBin3b
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    04-15-2017 , 07:13 PM
    C-bet size is fine, could go smaller actually. The flop is a good spot to play around with PPT/PJ and come up with continuing ranges based on assumptions to see if your flop bet has enough FE.

    The turn is similar but simpler: the most helpful approach is to plug in ranges and see what your equity looks like. In spots like these, thinking in terms of "we are blocking straight draws" doesn't help, because that's true no matter what and can't help you differentiate between whether you have more equity than needed or less, which depends more on the overall composition of villain's range. Looks fine though.
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    04-15-2017 , 11:32 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami
    C-bet size is fine, could go smaller actually. The flop is a good spot to play around with PPT/PJ and come up with continuing ranges based on assumptions to see if your flop bet has enough FE.
    The turn is similar but simpler: the most helpful approach is to plug in ranges and see what your equity looks like. In spots like these, thinking in terms of "we are blocking straight draws" doesn't help, because that's true no matter what and can't help you differentiate between whether you have more equity than needed or less, which depends more on the overall composition of villain's range.
    I just started using a PJ a few months ago, how would compose the villains range?
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    04-16-2017 , 08:24 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
    Looks pretty thin to me

    You don't have to 3bet this hand out of the blinds, defending with a call to have a smaller SPR on the flop is fine

    What are your stats on villains F3B and FCBin3b
    This hand is in the top 5% so in think the 3b is deffinetly good.

    Rankings for KsTcQdQs
    Ranking Description Average Best Worst
    10H 10-handed iterative (default) 5.0 5.0 5.0
    3H 3-handed iterative 4.0 4.0 4.0
    6H 6-handed iterative 5.0 5.0 5.0
    VR vs. random hand 4.0 4.0 4.0


    My hm is not working well in the moment but im sure the fold to 3b stat would be around : 5-15
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    04-16-2017 , 09:10 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by achalmers
    If I had the button and a player made a weak flop bet like that, I would have raised him. I'd bet 3/4 pot on the flop. Turn bet is perfect as SPR < 1.


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    What does this even mean? Btn has no raise size other than jam on the flop. Are you saying that you jam 100% of AT2r flops vs ~50%psb cbets from the 3bettor as the btn? I think you need to rethink what the **** your brain is thinking.
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    04-16-2017 , 09:28 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tejas_Escorpion
    I just started using a PJ a few months ago, how would compose the villains range?
    It's pretty useful to play around with different thresholds for continuing (for both players). The specific range isn't so important.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Loctus
    What does this even mean? Btn has no raise size other than jam on the flop. Are you saying that you jam 100% of AT2r flops vs ~50%psb cbets from the 3bettor as the btn? I think you need to rethink what the **** your brain is thinking.


    Yeah, OP's bet size is relatively standard, and strong hands would certainly play that way too. Betting 75% pot doesn't really make sense with anything, with these stack sizes.
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    04-16-2017 , 09:28 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Loctus
    What does this even mean? Btn has no raise size other than jam on the flop. Are you saying that you jam 100% of AT2r flops vs ~50%psb cbets from the 3bettor as the btn? I think you need to rethink what the **** your brain is thinking.
    Hey , he is a losing plo50 player! More respect pls!
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    04-16-2017 , 02:33 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rorooen
    This hand is in the top 5% so in think the 3b is deffinetly good.

    Rankings for KsTcQdQs
    Ranking Description Average Best Worst
    10H 10-handed iterative (default) 5.0 5.0 5.0
    3H 3-handed iterative 4.0 4.0 4.0
    6H 6-handed iterative 5.0 5.0 5.0
    VR vs. random hand 4.0 4.0 4.0


    My hm is not working well in the moment but im sure the fold to 3b stat would be around : 5-15
    Ok lol if it's that low then 3b all day, any idea what his FCB in 3bet pots is?
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    04-16-2017 , 03:42 PM
    You can all **** off, then! I'm tired of all this bull**** trolling! If you can't add anything to the conversation with anything constructive, then don't ****ing post here!


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    Last edited by achalmers; 04-16-2017 at 03:48 PM.
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    04-16-2017 , 06:22 PM
    Loctus isn't trolling. Correcting wrong opinion is at least constructive. Advice like "Keep the betting machine" running is more trolling.
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    04-16-2017 , 07:20 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by achalmers
    You can all **** off, then! I'm tired of all this bull**** trolling! If you can't add anything to the conversation with anything constructive, then don't ****ing post here!


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    Don't worry about it. Some of these guys are antisocial ****s, which is totally to be expected from poker players.
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    04-16-2017 , 07:22 PM
    I can't add anything to this conversation but I just wanna keep the posting machine rolling
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    04-17-2017 , 08:41 AM
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    Originally Posted by z0mgtiltz
    I can't add anything to this conversation but I just wanna keep the posting machine rolling


    At least you have a sense of humor :-)


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