Hey guys, opening myself up for some abuse here but played an interesting spot last night that I thought could perhaps spark a little discussion outside 'f*** you man go and PokerJuice it'.


Game is £10/25 9handed Pot Limit Omaha.

Villain1 - Stack: £2000 Info: Bad Holdem Reg, worst PLO semi reg
Villain2 - Stack:: £6500 Bad Euro Rec
Villain3 - Stack: £5800 Big winner in game, doesn't play GTO Live though.
Hero - Stack: £15000 2p2 Whipping boy.

Our hand:- AAJTr

Villain1 limps 25, Villain2 125 on btn, Villain 3 flats SB, we flat out of BB. Villain1 limp squeezes to 650, villain2 flats and villain3 flats.

The question is is this a mandatory bomb for us now or is it better to call. Ranges I think are fairly mandatory here, I think Villain1 is going to be high card heavy with have a lot of KK, AKx etc. Villain2 will likely be high card strength heavy as he had a tendency to limp behind with his hands with connectivity. SB likely to have mid rundowns or double pair hand like 8877, 9966 etc.

Anyway, I thought it was a spot that warranted some discussion, if others disagree feel free to flame away.

I haven´t played in a while but I guess you get rightfully flamed.

1150

Fair.

I personally think that they're not hugely different in terms of one or there other. We both know one is probably more EV just much higher variance.

Not the worst idea but the EV differential is vastly worse if VillainA decides to flat and then the others do too vs just getting 3k in there.

The ev is exactly the same when they all never fold.

Only issue here is how often you fold best hand post and how often your aces are actually in V1s hands. Limp rr is AAxx a lot making u a huge dog and a fold now. I know players who only play AAxx UTG with a limp rr.

You didnt say what v1s position is but it matters a lot. The later his pos the more i want to jam.

If he is utg, we have position on the best player. UTG is prob jamming all flops, so we will get a lot of info by calling, so i call here

If he is limping from later pos jam

just pot ffs

? Iam not a math genious but you can just put a huge raise w AA where the eff stack would be like <1 vs the bigstack. What is the question? Or live the +ev doesnt matter only the "i dont feel the board today" arguements?
Anyway noone is a ***** prophet. It could happen that v2 &v3 just fold :O why not? Maybe have bad qq_kk and not in a gambling mood or whatever. I mean this post given stacksizes was born only for a **** level or badbeat
#drunkmood #waterpolo final

No one's ever folding even if you repot here, up to you if you want to gamble..

Given ranges, villain 1 has a ton of blockers to your hand making the nuts. Without suits to go, it's a shrug call, unless you are reasonably certain potting it is going to get it HU, repotting is burning money imo. Much rather have 78910 to repot than naked aces


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f*** you man go and PokerJuice it

Giving we put vilain 1 the vast majority of times on aces, it would be a case for folding aces pre/just call if vilain 1 had the same stack size.

Giving we can built a side pot and therefore not split it if we win, I would pot it.

Given the limp-raise, IMO just flat and play from flop.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
aajt	21.98%	85,523	92,755
aa	19.50%	70,723	92,628
9876	33.83%	199,957	6,049
10%	24.68%	144,947	6,340

lol the threads these days, is plo getting softer? nice

You just dont understand the live games Alex. There are lot of things like table dinamics, or you can just put people on exact hands cause you know them so much!
Or you know 100% that noone will fold to our reshove so its not + ev with rainbow aces. You are fool. We are fool. Plo is more complex than we think! Ranges are idiotic cause we can put them on hands.

Alex can troll because although he's a jackass (albeit my friend Andy swears to me he's an decent bloke) he has beaten and likely still beats high stacks.

On the other hand, you Naggeri, could possibly be one of the bowlest guys on this site. Keep trying to beat 1/2 online you massive pigeon.

Ive played _ALOT_ nosebleed cashgame in Private London games, EPTs, Macau and Bobbies Room/Bellagio the past 10 years, so im good thanks, to even think this is a spot is so FPS there prob are some very fundamental flaws in ure game.

+1.

I mean a guy start a thread w AA what can he do given stacksizes and start piheoning.
Ok, gl Alex is overrated disgusting scripter 4sure but if someone bink a MTT live players start sckin his dck so i get your point.

If you ever want to play HU @ 5/10+ PM me.

Try and bring a little life back to the forums.

would be nice but Alex the disgusting has snap seat on you
but you can find me almoast allways in lobby between 2/4 z500 3/6. planning not to play much on Stars but checking the lobby

If you have money on Party can do 2 10/25s on there?

I don't have any Stars $s and can't be bothered to try and get sufficient funds on there.

Could also do all other euro site options.

I have no interest in playing Alex HU fwiw.

I would announce a potsized reraise...
Tough spot indeed

How is this even a question? You pot it, the SPR will be less than 0.5 on the flop, then you pot it on the flop, regardless of what the flop comes. Easy game.

Man the old run bad lose £6500, run good lose £5100 spot, sure is great to have dem aces