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| High Stakes PL Omaha Discussion of 2/4 and above pot-limit Omaha poker |
06-26-2012, 07:10 PM
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veteran
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
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Originally Posted by MATT111
I think from a range vs. range perspective this has to be a check. Flop sizing is not good imo.
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This.
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06-26-2012, 07:11 PM
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veteran
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
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Originally Posted by Zacharrrr
whats a good flop sizing in your opinion
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Bigger!
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06-26-2012, 07:43 PM
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Pooh-Bah
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
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Originally Posted by Zacharrrr
whats a good flop sizing in your opinion
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340 seems about right with those stacks.
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06-26-2012, 08:56 PM
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
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Originally Posted by joeri
If you don't 3bet this hand pre, you should 3bet 0% oop 200bb deep.
I like a turn c-r.
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Correct and correct.
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06-26-2012, 09:27 PM
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adept
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
i would cbet bigger and now check...
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06-27-2012, 03:52 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
i bet 640 on turn and vilain folded
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06-27-2012, 07:31 AM
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grinder
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
What are u doing on turn with just TTxx and no blockers?
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06-27-2012, 06:23 PM
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adept
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
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Originally Posted by fullcontact
What are u doing on turn with just TTxx and no blockers?
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check looks good with our entire range
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06-28-2012, 02:25 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
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Originally Posted by MATT111
I think from a range vs. range perspective this has to be a check. Flop sizing is not good imo.
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+1. I'd just check almost my whole range here. CR is easiest but I think the hand actually plays out pretty great when you C/C (trapping not being cautious, almost never folding).
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06-28-2012, 02:31 AM
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
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Originally Posted by alexo18
check looks good with our entire range
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сh/call?
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06-28-2012, 03:54 AM
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runs good at HORSE
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
Really don't understand what people are saying about flop sizing. This is a good standard C-bet size on a dry board, and when I bet this flop I bet the same size every time. Don't really like varying it based on hand strength.
Don't like checking the turn either. It was a dry flop to begin with, and we block a lot of draws as well as the nut straight with our two 8s. Seems there are going to be a lot of weak-to-medium strength made hands in his range that are going to be willing to call a bet, but will be scared to bet themselves if we check considering the perfect CR stacks. Now of course, you need a little bit of an aggro image to make it work. If he doesn't think you're capable of barreling on a bunch of different runouts, he won't call light, but for my game I feel like betting >> checking. Obv never folding against someone aggro here either if I do get raised.
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06-28-2012, 04:37 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
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Originally Posted by cts
+1. I'd just check almost my whole range here. CR is easiest but I think the hand actually plays out pretty great when you C/C (trapping not being cautious, almost never folding).
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well the problem is villain is gonna check this back a whole lot more than you would like.
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06-28-2012, 09:51 AM
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Pooh-Bah
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
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Originally Posted by Zacharrrr
well the problem is villain is gonna check this back a whole lot more than you would like.
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Thats probably right. Thing is we get to the turn with 1p most of the time. Are you betting this turn with aaxx/ akqt? What about the river? Seems a lil spewy as a default.
Last edited by MATT111; 06-28-2012 at 10:05 AM.
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06-28-2012, 09:55 AM
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Pooh-Bah
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
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Originally Posted by iggymcfly
Really don't understand what people are saying about flop sizing. This is a good standard C-bet size on a dry board, and when I bet this flop I bet the same size every time. Don't really like varying it based on hand .
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you realize we are 200bb deep? Who said we are betting weaker with anything?
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06-28-2012, 10:48 AM
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adept
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Re: 10/20 deep 3bet pot, set, turn?
as I said before, range play should be checking... this board and turn doesnt hit our 3b range very often, un less we are 3betting like 20%? or more.
so the whole idea in the hand is to construct a line with our entire range and not with our hand. I expect thinking villains try to exploit us in this spots very often if we dont have a checking range on the turn, because we cant 3 barrel in a balanced way without lefting our checking range too weak... so the way to protect our range would be checking...
about people worried of villain checking behind. you are only worried because we have topset + blockers, but the fact that we usually will have medium-weak hands its the relevant issue. Those medium-weak hands wants to get to a cheap showdown and cant continue barreling this turn without getting punished (by good observant regs). so he checkind behind is "good" for our range.
of course that if villain doesnt stab often this turns u can start barreling more polarize and leaving all ur medium hand strength hands in your checking range... or make the adjust u think exploit more his frecuencies
ps: sorry for my english?
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