State of KY trying to seize online domain names... - Page 6 - Poker Players Alliance

kentuckeeee · 09-23-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LeapFrog

I would tend to agree. However I think the logic is that the people that actually do bet on the horses may also engage in other forms of gambling. They only have so much to spend per month (as a crude example) and the less they lose at poker or online slots/whatever the more they can spend on horses.

I think you guys are missing a few key points regarding Beshear's agenda. I am not an expert but this is a rough sketch of what is going on. Beshear ran his election on bringing casino gambling to Kentucky. Once elected, he could not get the legislation out of congress. However, it is apparent that he and his backers (not coincidentally, the big money horse guys and big money commercial developers who would love to become the big money casino guys) believe they will ultimately prevail in the fight to get casinos in the state. Banning online gaming in the state is just a precursor to this. He wants no competition for his horse tracks and eventually casinos. He also wants a public hungry for gaming in the state.

pokerrn72 · 09-23-2008, 06:15 PM

That's my kind of action plan:

Nick Wood, managing director of London-based Com Laude, which holds the domain name for PokerStars, said: "We anticipated this could happen and we've developed an action plan which largely consists of us not responding." Milton Keynes-based Safenames, the registrar for Full Tilt, declined to comment.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...3/gambling.usa

KentuckyWildcats · 09-23-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostit

Do any of those tracks have card rooms? I know in Florida, most tracks have card rooms so its not the horses that they think you're detracting from, it would their own card room business. If they don't have card rooms at the tracks in KY, then this might be a precursor to the tracks opening them up in the near future.

The horse tracks in KY do NOT have card rooms.

KentuckyWildcats · 09-23-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerrn72

That's my kind of action plan:

Nick Wood, managing director of London-based Com Laude, which holds the domain name for PokerStars, said: "We anticipated this could happen and we've developed an action plan which largely consists of us not responding." Milton Keynes-based Safenames, the registrar for Full Tilt, declined to comment.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...3/gambling.usa

Interesting.

eddytom · 09-23-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerrn72

That's my kind of action plan:

Nick Wood, managing director of London-based Com Laude, which holds the domain name for PokerStars, said: "We anticipated this could happen and we've developed an action plan which largely consists of us not responding." Milton Keynes-based Safenames, the registrar for Full Tilt, declined to comment.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...3/gambling.usa

It actually is a good action plan, this is a quote that has been misunderstood on message boards all day. This is not message from PokerStars, this is a message from the company that holds the PokerStars registrar, which means, they simply won't answer requests from Kentucky to let the name be seized. The names can't be seized unless the registrar hands them over. PokerStars' registrar is saying they won't hand over the domain name.

pokerrn72 · 09-23-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by eddytom

It actually is a good action plan, this is a quote that has been misunderstood on message boards all day. This is not message from PokerStars, this is a message from the company that holds the PokerStars registrar, which means, they simply won't answer requests from Kentucky to let the name be seized. The names can't be seized unless the registrar hands them over. PokerStars' registrar is saying they won't hand over the domain name.

Yes, I know. I wasn't being facetious.

eddytom · 09-23-2008, 06:25 PM

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A hearing on the matter is set for Thursday, September 25.

When asked about the possibility of Governor Beshear blocking access to other sites besides online gambling sites, Midkiff said there are no plans at this time to do so and that the Governor was focusing only on illegal gambling sites.

On the issue of Kentucky appearing to be backwards for trying to block online gambling sites, Midkiff said the state's gambling laws are more prohibitive than other states.

When asked if it's hypocritical for Governor Beshear to attempt to block gambling Web sites when he supports casino gambling in the state, Midkiff said that the Governor was focused on the illegal activity of such sites.

http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/20...-gambling-plan

Austiger · 09-23-2008, 06:25 PM

Hopefully when Bodog had their little domain snafu (or even before) Stars and Tilt made sure they had theirs registered under the best site for these situations. You can have it transferred to another registrar at anytime, so they have had plenty of time to think about this and pick the best one.

oldbookguy · 09-23-2008, 06:32 PM

comment I posted on the Forbes Article

Amazingly bold and odd move by Kentucky.

I am more amused by who is NOT on the list given it deals with Internet Gaming than who is.

For instance, World winner is not there with the 30 million members there who gamble online from a site based in Newton, Massachusetts on card games such as Spades, Hearts, Free Cell, Solitaire and even children’s games such as Bejeweled along with about 90 others.

This is but one gaming company from the U. S. and IT and the others do not pay “licensing fees” to Kentucky but offer mixed chance / skill card games no different than poker along with Backgammon, another roll the dice “skill” game.

Is this simply a ploy by Kentucky to force payment concessions or simply protectionism at its best or worst as the case may be?

Other companies:
king.com
Rasmussen.intrade.com
Spadeclub.com
Nlop.com
University of Iowa Business School
ESPN Fantasy
CBS Fantasy
And dozens more

obg

1p0kerboy · 09-23-2008, 06:34 PM

lol at the hypocrisy here...this guy is really something special:

In a statement welcoming the order, Governor Beshear said: "The owners and operators of these illegal sites prey on Kentucky citizens, including our youth, and deprive the Commonwealth of millions of dollars in revenue. It's an underworld wrought with scams and schemes." He described them as "leeches on our communities".

He conceded the action was in part designed to protect the interests of local horseracing-related gambling.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...3/gambling.usa

Translation: this scum is stealing the business from our scum.

Bilko111 · 09-23-2008, 06:39 PM

I find it interesting that Stars and Fulltilt are both registered in the UK, I would assume they looked into the law quite carefully, the high court in London is unlikely to give a **** what some hick judge in Kentucky thinks.

1p0kerboy · 09-23-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Austiger

Hopefully when Bodog had their little domain snafu (or even before) Stars and Tilt made sure they had theirs registered under the best site for these situations. You can have it transferred to another registrar at anytime, so they have had plenty of time to think about this and pick the best one.

Good point.

Pretty sure they did.

Nick Wood, managing director of London-based Com Laude, which holds the domain name for PokerStars, said: "We anticipated this could happen and we've developed an action plan which largely consists of us not responding."

Self Made · 09-23-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerrn72

Nick Wood, managing director of London-based Com Laude, which holds the domain name for PokerStars, said: "We anticipated this could happen and we've developed an action plan which largely consists of us not responding."

Smile of the day.

Uglyowl · 09-23-2008, 07:06 PM

Wow do I feel stupid contributing to his campaign

And I live in Mass.

Phone call: Mailbox is full. Will follow up tomorrow.

Letter:

Subject: Contributions and then a "knife in the back"

Good evening,

I was so impressed by your expanded gambling platform up in Massachusetts that I supported your campaign with a contribution. As an online poker player, I was more than willing to help in the campaign for someone who agreed adults can do what they want with their money and time.

After a ten hour workday today, I read that you are attempting to shut down all gambling and poker sites! I am in shock after closely following your campaign and celebrating your win over Ernie Fletcher. I am quickly losing faith in all politicians after becoming interested in the Democrat Party and politicians who stood up for freedom. Please reconsider as you have disappointed many who supported you campaign.

Thank you,

Uglyowl · 09-23-2008, 07:34 PM

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Beshear said Kentucky loses tens of million of dollars a year to online gambling,

God damn it, this is getting sickening the politicians who believe that our money is theirs. Unless it's bailouts or scratch tickets we are spending our money on they are not happy.

Also LOL at him thinking if there is no poker to be played everyone will rush to the race track.