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If Ollie is being sent to the pen, then I'm guessing he wasn't so supportive of a move to the minors. I can also see why the mets can't just claim an injury and send him due to the union, ollie whining, etc.

I lost a little respect for him after this, pretty crappy thing to do, especially since the minors is a good place for him to work out some things without any pressure.

Onto the game which isn't going so well...

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05-04-2009 , 08:37 PM

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We need something from the heart of the lineup this inning please...

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05-04-2009 , 08:37 PM

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woooo

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05-04-2009 , 08:39 PM

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FINALLY TRON

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05-04-2009 , 08:39 PM

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there we go tron!!

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05-04-2009 , 08:41 PM

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Come on Delgado, keep it going now.

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05-04-2009 , 08:42 PM

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SHIP IT!!! dw

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05-04-2009 , 08:42 PM

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holler.

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05-04-2009 , 08:42 PM

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David Wright with a 2 run bomb to put the Mets up by one.
Maybe these guys found their marbles.

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05-04-2009 , 08:56 PM

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wrights defense has been so good this season

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05-04-2009 , 09:05 PM

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YEAH BELTRAN. JUST TRADED FOR HIM ON MY FANTASY TEAM

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05-04-2009 , 09:07 PM

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i have a feeling our hitters are going to prefer road games

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05-04-2009 , 09:07 PM

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tron again!!

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05-04-2009 , 09:09 PM

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I would like to challenge you all to try to answer these questions as objectively as possible, and then state whether you think they have a legitimate shot at the playoffs (keeping in mind how mediocre the division appears to be):

Do you expect:

(1) Maine to improve and have a solid year?
(2) Pelfrey to improve and have a solid year?
(3) Wright to improve and have a solid year?
(4) Reyes to improve and have a solid year?
(5) the relievers to end up being among the best in the league?
(6) Murphy to continue to produce at the same level?
(7) Castillo to continue to produce at the same level?
(8) Beltran to continue to produce at the same level?

My answers to the first four questions are affirmative, and I think those are the most important questions on the list. I think the answers to the last four may be negative, but I don't think they matter as much.

Hence, I still expect the Mets to have a reasonable shot at making the playoffs.

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05-04-2009 , 09:11 PM

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ty wynton. ty.

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05-04-2009 , 10:01 PM

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Everyone suddenly disappears when something good happens?

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05-04-2009 , 10:08 PM

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hahahaha

haters man. haters.

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05-04-2009 , 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by starkwired

I don't think Omar should be fired. The Mets would hire some terrible person to replace him who would be even worse. Omar is a slightly above average GM, who hasn't made any absolutely awful trades like every other GM in Mets history. He gets a pass for at least another year from me because of how he played the Santana situation, the fact that he passed on Zito, and because of how he has rebuilt the farm system.

they gave him a 3 year extension in the middle of the collapse last year, i doubt they fire him

but they really should

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05-04-2009 , 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by niss

Just reading the statements attributed to Jerry Manuel on Metsblog, and I threw up all over myself. "Manuel said he will use Perez against left-handed batters in situational spots, in addition to working multiple innings."

I don't know who is responsible for this decision, but any incompetent could tell you that this is the worst possible option.

I have been a Mets' fan since my first game in 1972. I, as all Mets' fans, have been through a lot in rooting for this team for so long, from the miserable teams of the mid-70s and early-80s, to trading Tom Seaver for a used catcher's mask, to the disappointments of 85, 87, 88, etc., to Kenny Rogers, to losing to the Yankees in the WS, to Victor Zambrano, to the two epic collapses of the past two years ... and I, as all Mets' fans, have stuck with them through all of this nonsense.

But I have to say that this may be it for me. This is a mickey mouse rinky dink piece of crap organization, with a new park that's got more Dodgers' stuff in it than Mets', with seats behind home plate that don't let you see the whole field, with a team that doesn't hustle, doesn't play fundamentally sound baseball, with largely bad signings, and now this. They have no commitment to winning. A commitment to winning would have been either sending him to the minors or DL'ing him if he refused. Yet Manuel says he wasn't even asked to go to the minors. Incredible.

I tell you, I've really had it with this group. I hope I am wrong, and they go on a streak, and my butt his firmly planted on my couch watching them race into first, but I don't see it, and moves like this give me no confidence whatsoever. And I'm tired of it. I'm tired of the excuses. I'm tired of the stupid GM tricks. I'm tired of not sliding, not backing up, swinging at the first pitch after two walks when the pitch is at your ankles, relievers who walk the lead off man, blah blah.

Give me the teams from the 70s. These teams sucked. Hard. But they played hard. They gave their best. And in 1981, which was a strike season, when this putrid squad of Mets were within a few games of first late in the second-half part of the season, the fans were into it. I was into it. I'm not now.

I hope we look back on this post in September, and everyone is laughing at me for overreacting like the mental patient fan I belittle. I'm not feeling it now though. This feels a lot more like '91 and '92 than '86, or '00, or '06.

this is my favorite niss post ever.

i have nothing else to add, except i couldnt have said it better myself

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05-04-2009 , 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SMIGLET

i do agree with this, the fundamentals have been pretty bad and do make a difference

that said i dont expect it to be that way for too much longer

thats what she said

i do agree though, it shouldnt be much longer, we have been waiting for 3 or 4 years, the fundamentals have got to be coming soon

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05-04-2009 , 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Suigin406

mets are claiming they never asked him to go to the minors

this is either

1) bull****
2) omar is even ****ing stupider than i thought

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05-04-2009 , 10:16 PM

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i missed tonights game, read the recap, and glad to hear it sounds like a solid win

that being said, reading that they didnt have the stones to send ollie down has me down

but a win is a win, lets build on it!

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05-04-2009 , 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

thats what she said

i do agree though, it shouldnt be much longer, we have been waiting for 3 or 4 years, the fundamentals have got to be coming soon

be more of a nit please

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