Neither, it was Jim Duquette.

He did not pass on Zito, he offered Zito $105m and he turned it down for the giants $126m contract. Yes he pulled off the Santana trade, but Minnesota was looking to dump him and the Yankees probably made one of the all time biggest mistakes not wanting to part with Melky, Kennedy, Hughes for Johan.

More importantly, Omar may not have made too many absurdly bad deals compared to the Mets past GMs - but he has made one of the worst trades of the last 25 years when he traded Grady Sizemore, Brandon Phillips and Cliff Lee for Bartolo Colon. I'm worried one of those deals with the Mets are looming.

we literally have no one to trade aside from fmart, a deal like that is not going to happen

its way too early to be talking about firing a gm, thats not gonna happen till the offseason

Im talking about the offseason.

LOL I was thinking of adding the Bartolo Colon deal to my post but figured I couldn't hold it against Omar since he wasn't with the Mets yet.

If Omar gets fired, you can bet that they are not going to pick some random, inexperienced person to fill the job. It will go to someone with a name and a wealth of experience IMO. I have no idea who is available or who may be available who fits that bill. If it's nobody, then Omar stays ... but if they could hire a Pat Gillick-type person, I bet they would do it.

Puke

At least put this ****** on the DL and get him off the team.

Puke confirmation from the Post blog:

I do not think I would consider the bullpen the optimal place for someone with a weak mind. With that being said moving Ollie to the bullpen makes absolutely 0 sense.

so alot of things pointing toward ollie having a significant injury imo:

- significant decline in velocity (89.2mph with a career average of 91.3, 91.2 last year)
- he is throwing his slider significantly less, while throwing his fastball and changeup more. (slider/curves are the ones that usually put the most stress on the arm)
- he is currently throwing his slider at a career low rate (17.2% of the time) when he has never thrown less than 21% sliders ever before. in fact he had increased his slider rate each of the last 4 years previously to a career high rate last year (26.9%)

all this info at fangraphs, closer to the bottom, under "pitch type" (pretty good for all baseball stats and overall just a good baseball site)
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...514&position=P

so hes throwing softer (2.1 mph slower), while throwing less stressful pitches more often, and at a drastic change from previously consistent career rates.

ya id say hes pitching through something

Just reading the statements attributed to Jerry Manuel on Metsblog, and I threw up all over myself. "Manuel said he will use Perez against left-handed batters in situational spots, in addition to working multiple innings."

I don't know who is responsible for this decision, but any incompetent could tell you that this is the worst possible option.

I have been a Mets' fan since my first game in 1972. I, as all Mets' fans, have been through a lot in rooting for this team for so long, from the miserable teams of the mid-70s and early-80s, to trading Tom Seaver for a used catcher's mask, to the disappointments of 85, 87, 88, etc., to Kenny Rogers, to losing to the Yankees in the WS, to Victor Zambrano, to the two epic collapses of the past two years ... and I, as all Mets' fans, have stuck with them through all of this nonsense.

But I have to say that this may be it for me. This is a mickey mouse rinky dink piece of crap organization, with a new park that's got more Dodgers' stuff in it than Mets', with seats behind home plate that don't let you see the whole field, with a team that doesn't hustle, doesn't play fundamentally sound baseball, with largely bad signings, and now this. They have no commitment to winning. A commitment to winning would have been either sending him to the minors or DL'ing him if he refused. Yet Manuel says he wasn't even asked to go to the minors. Incredible.

I tell you, I've really had it with this group. I hope I am wrong, and they go on a streak, and my butt his firmly planted on my couch watching them race into first, but I don't see it, and moves like this give me no confidence whatsoever. And I'm tired of it. I'm tired of the excuses. I'm tired of the stupid GM tricks. I'm tired of not sliding, not backing up, swinging at the first pitch after two walks when the pitch is at your ankles, relievers who walk the lead off man, blah blah.

Give me the teams from the 70s. These teams sucked. Hard. But they played hard. They gave their best. And in 1981, which was a strike season, when this putrid squad of Mets were within a few games of first late in the second-half part of the season, the fans were into it. I was into it. I'm not now.

I hope we look back on this post in September, and everyone is laughing at me for overreacting like the mental patient fan I belittle. I'm not feeling it now though. This feels a lot more like '91 and '92 than '86, or '00, or '06.

Oh the comments on Metsblog are priceless. 100 comments, and not a one even attempting to defend this. Killing the Mets.

Let me be the one to try and defend this move....






wait, i can't this is the dumbest chit i ever heard of in my life. does anyone here want to see ollie come in vs situational lefties? no the guy can't throw a strike.

Niss,

This post brought a tear to my eye, seriously. I started following this team in 1975 and I certainly share your sentiments. Its very frustrating when we as fans care more than the people signing the players checks and the players themselves.

I share your feeling of gloom and doom for this team. Unfortunately for us as fans, this team will hit rock bottom this season because of the lack of leadership.

Flame away.

Hey wh1t3bread,

Are you starting to worry

boo hoo hoo give me a break. there are plentyyyyyy of other organizations out there far worse off in every single possible way

stop ****ing whining and grow a pair

There is some serious over-reacting going on here.

The mid-late 1970s were much worse than now, even if this team finished under .500.

At least Delgado is back in the lineup.

True, however they were lovable losers that played with heart and fire.
The team sucked, you expected them to suck but they played their hearts out.

LOL, yeah the last two years have been a real hoot. It's all subjective, but give me the lovable losers over this crowd and their indifferent play any day.

LOL dude, whatever, it's all subjective and I expressed my opinion and the foundation for it. I didn't ask you to agree with me and don't really care if you do. But it is funny to "discuss" this in a "civil" manner with Mets fans who think the old days were 1993.

This Met team does all the little things... wrong.

They don't move runners over enough, can't get the bunt down when it counts, strike out with a runner on third and less than two out too often and play sloppy defense in key spots.

There's enough talent to stay close despite all this, but unless they fundamentally change the way they go about their business every night, physically and mentally, I don't see a playoff team.

3-0 Braves top of the third, the Mets still do not have a hit.
At least Jose Reyes just worked out a walk.

aaaah

Murphy on first, Reyes on second, both worked out walks .

Come on Beltran one time baby.

i do agree with this, the fundamentals have been pretty bad and do make a difference

that said i dont expect it to be that way for too much longer