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Old 12-18-2009, 08:44 PM   #466
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Spanish patfan reporting =D
Bienvenido. Los patriotas son terribles.

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Old 12-18-2009, 09:04 PM   #467
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Bienvenido. Los patriotas son terribles.
Gracias:P Terriblemente malos lol :P jk
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Old 12-20-2009, 04:20 PM   #468
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sick week

pats win, jets lose, dolphins lose
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Old 12-20-2009, 04:20 PM   #469
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The Division is basically won.

New England 9-5 (Division 4-2)
Miami 7-7 (Division 4-2)
New York 7-7 (Division 2-4)
Buffalo 5-9


Does anybody want to figure out #3 below?


TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

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1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
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Old 12-20-2009, 04:21 PM   #470
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best record in games against the same teams, right?
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Old 12-20-2009, 04:29 PM   #471
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best record in games against the same teams, right?
Correct.

Jets are eliminated from the division race.

Since MIA and NE have identical division records, the common-opponents record would reduce to their records against the AFCS and NFCS. NE is 4-2 with games against JAX and @HOU coming up, MIA is 3-4 with a game against HOU coming up.

If NE loses the last two and MIA wins the next two, the common-opponents records would be equal. Next up would be the in-conference records, which would also be equal (NE was 1-1 against BAL and DEN, MIA would be 1-1 against SD and PIT).

The next tiebreaker would be "strength of victory". I think it might mean the cumulative record of all opponents beaten, but I could be totally wrong about that.
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:52 PM   #472
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The defense played outstanding today, and Brady was meh. The real lack of a true #3 WR is showing up more and more each week. Yes, Welker is amazing (as is Moss) but not having another reliable down the field target is really kicking our asses. O'Brien needs to find a way to get Watson and/or Faulk more involved in the passing game imo.
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:44 AM   #473
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being a little greedy imo
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:46 AM   #474
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i was very proud of the pash rush today although i think it was more a fact of the Bills offensive line just being sucky than us overwhelming them

Moss looked better, Wes had a slowish day for once. Shows again that defenses cant shut them both down at the same time.

Run game looked better than usual, wish we had run it more actually. Also, why dont we give Morris more reps??? I think hes better than Maroneys fumbling ass.


And whats the deal with Fred Taylor? Why didnt we just put him on IR a long time ago? He doesnt even seem close to being ready to go anytime soon.
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:51 AM   #475
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Was real worried after the first drive when the Bills just ran at will, but they adjusted nicely and the 3rd down scheme was a nice coaching job.

This sounds weird given that its week 15, but its almost like the offense hasnt found its identity yet. The mid decade pass offenses calling card was that they could play matchups really well...could go 5 wide against the Steelers one week, then play power football against the Colts the next. The '07 team was obviously an air show. Last year's team, by December, was precision short passing mixed in with an underrated run game.

This year its just like they try something random and different every series, and if they get a lead completely spaz out and try and protect the lead with uberconsevative runs between random intermittent tricky pass plays. It just seems out of sync, and the only constants are that they'll try at least 3 or 4 bombs a half (and Brady will throw 2 ****ty ones) and will run a draw abut 80% of the time on 2nd and long.

Not that its been ineffective, just feels like something is missing and its more of a struggle than it needs to be.

Plan should be to win next week then shut it down if the Chargers win and the slim, slim shot at a bye is gone. Not sure its better to be the 3 seed than the 4, would much rather play the Colts in the divisional round and give someone a chance to knock off the Chargers than vice versa and the 4 seed gives us a better shot to do that.
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Old 12-21-2009, 10:03 AM   #476
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Tough scenario for the Patriots to win it all. As it stands today they would have to beat:

Denver at home
San Diego away
Indy away
New Orleans (maybe) in the SB
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Old 12-21-2009, 10:50 AM   #477
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one game at a time
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:11 AM   #478
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one game at a time
Of course.

But with an obviously hurt Tom Brady it looks pretty bleak. With the repaired knee, sprained index finger, sore shoulder and possible cracked rib, he obviously is not himself and to upset these better teams we need him near 100%.
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:01 PM   #479
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Correct.

Jets are eliminated from the division race.

Since MIA and NE have identical division records, the common-opponents record would reduce to their records against the AFCS and NFCS. NE is 4-2 with games against JAX and @HOU coming up, MIA is 3-4 with a game against HOU coming up.

If NE loses the last two and MIA wins the next two, the common-opponents records would be equal. Next up would be the in-conference records, which would also be equal (NE was 1-1 against BAL and DEN, MIA would be 1-1 against SD and PIT).

The next tiebreaker would be "strength of victory". I think it might mean the cumulative record of all opponents beaten, but I could be totally wrong about that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Miami would be 7-5 in-conference and NE would be 6-6. If Miami wins out and NE loses out, Miami gets in based on that.
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:20 PM   #480
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One thing I don't understand. If SD loses out and NE wins out, I would think due to "winning percentage against common teams" would have the Pats as the 1st round bye. Common opponents being Balt, Miami, Den, Tenn. But Yahoo has the Chargers still with the bye.
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