Minnesota Vikings - MVPETERSON!

[willie24]

Originally Posted by SL__72

Because drafting TJ and signing Johnson/Holcumbe/Frerotte instead of someone decent are somewhat independent decisions.

huh? someone said that chilly handled the tj situation bad. then you said that tj was not a horrilble pick. chilly could have handled the tj situation bad and tj could have been an ok pick at the same time

[Pudge714]

willie,
I doubt the tjax haters think the problem is that he didn't get enough playing time.

[SL__72]

Originally Posted by willie24

huh? someone said that chilly handled the tj situation bad. then you said that tj was not a horrilble pick. chilly could have handled the tj situation bad and tj could have been an ok pick at the same time

Unless cha was talking about benching him at the beginning of last season (which I'm sure he wasn't) which I thought at the time and still think was a ridiculous and terrible decision, I don't know how Childress could have handled TJ differently?

He was an ok draft pick, it was fine to start him at the end of his rookie season when we sucked, it was fine to start him his 2nd season given the other options and it was certainly fine to start him over Frerotte last season.

Did you know that TJ's career (regular season) adjusted net yards per attempt was about the same as Eli Manning's before this season started? That by ANY/A, his 7 games or whatever last season were better on average then any season Eli has had? He has also only played in 28 games, less then two full seasons, including all the partial games he's gotten into. And Eli had Burress + a better OL.

That is an above average 64th overall pick.

[willie24]

as you said, what was bad was not getting anyone better than TJ. to me, at least, that is totally tied to childress being stubborn about TJ being his guy. if you wanted to describe that blunder in two words i think it'd be fair to say "tj".

there is nothing implied there that tj was a bad draft pick.

[willie24]

Originally Posted by SL__72

Unless cha was talking about benching him at the beginning of last season (which I'm sure he wasn't) which I thought at the time and still think was a ridiculous and terrible decision, I don't know how Childress could have handled TJ differently?

he could have had a plan B.

[cha59]

Originally Posted by willie24

he could have had a plan B.

This.

The fact that chilly traded up for him, seemed to make chilly think he was going to be a lot better than he is. The fact that chilly has never had a good plan B is why it was a bad pick.

As far as what I think of TJ, I have exaggerated a lot about my dislike for him before, but I do not think he should be plan A, and never should have been plan A. He is a project, with limited upside.

[vikefan24]

Originally Posted by willie24

as you said, what was bad was not getting anyone better than TJ. to me, at least, that is totally tied to childress being stubborn about TJ being his guy. if you wanted to describe that blunder in two words i think it'd be fair to say "tj".

there is nothing implied there that tj was a bad draft pick.

This is exactly what I meant when I quoted that guys list of Chili problems and just added the Tarvaris comment

[cha59]

Not much being said here about the game tomorrow.

Is Pittsburgh going to exploit our D after seeing what Baltimore did last week, or are we going to actually tackle people this week?

I wonder if we get blown out, if the Chilly contract extension talk will go away for a while.

I think we have a decent chance to win this game, but its something <50%.

[vetiver]

Originally Posted by cha59

Not much being said here about the game tomorrow.

Is Pittsburgh going to exploit our D after seeing what Baltimore did last week, or are we going to actually tackle people this week?

I wonder if we get blown out, if the Chilly contract extension talk will go away for a while.

I think we have a decent chance to win this game, but its something <50%.

vegas says 27%

winfield out 4-6 weeks

[SMIGLET]

roethlesberger will get his yards, he will also get sacked a ton. chalk up another 2+ sacks for jared

kind of hard to say how the vikings offense will do, favre has to have a bad game soon right?

[Pudge714]

about Winfield.
After steelers/packers we have Bye and Detroit so let's hope he can be back at full strength for Seattle/Chicago

[SarcasticRat]

I have a weird feeling the game is going to be a shootout. I know Roethlisberger is going to throw for like 500 yards, have a feeling the Vikings offense is going to mostly keep pace and we'll probably lose on a Childress coaching fail.

[Schwallie]

WTF IS UP WITH THIS PUNTING? SERIOUSLY?

44-36-12 YRDS without any pressure

[McShove]

vikings looking better this drive but all these short passes worry me. could see one being jumped for 6 the other way.

[willie24]

god that's a tough last 2nd quarter drive. 2 missed tackles on m. moore in the backfield on 3rd down, e.j. dropped interception, johnson had a (tougher) chance at an interception.