The Hip got to mock me for 9 years. In the end, GREEAR was right. I think we are both satisfied with the end result, we can shake hands as champions and squash the beef.

Miss this thread back when it was poppin!!

Dude we are all bros here. ****ing 15-0!

That valenti call was cracking me up. I don't mind them most days but the cheating scandal broke his brain. Just whining day after day.

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not but that dream is over. We can't even hold onto our 6th OL guy let alone JJ leaving and Harbaugh most likely gone. And vs that nightmare schedule we're most likely going 7-5 next year which is whatever. It's time to rebuild. Sux we're gonna waste an elite defense next year like Penn State did this year but those are the breaks. The mediocre recruiting over the last 3 years is finally gonna catch us. No portal magic will save us this time. Still the last 3 years on the field, nothing can take those memories away. This national championship will be cherished forever.

ILP: We will have a top 5 defense in the country next year. Whether we have a shot to make the playoff and go in a run or not, will solely depend on what QB we get in the portal. Maybe Roger’s comes in and morphs into Joe Burrow, you never know.

Standing pat at QB, and yeah, we’re prob losing 3-4 games. What helps is USC/WASH will be ass next year. Those games looked much tougher 3 months ago.

Yea I'm probably being too pessimistic. Just really hate the fact that Texas is on the schedule. Didnt need that. Checked out Roger's stats. His 2021 & 22 stats look pretty amazing. Hope that happens. I'm definitely a believer.

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Happy 1 week hangover anniversary!

Still can't believe we ****ing did it. Never thought I'd see a National Championship for Michigan in my lifetime.

I gotta admit, when the bracket came out, a FSU/WASH path to title was salivating. FSU should have 100% got in IMO, based on what I think college football should be about.

When we drew Bama, the line was initially -2 -140. I figured we would be underdogs by kickoff. That was such a brutal draw. Go from a 14-17pt favorite to a coinflip so ESPN could get better ratings. It’s just a brutal decision for us.

That being said, it’s a billion times sweeter ending Bama/Saban in route to winning it all.

Right before the punt with 44 seconds left I was begging to not even have a return man back. Our offense just isn’t built to drive with no timeouts and that little time. I equally cannot believe the punt was muffed, then recovered, and then not fumbled on that hit….. HOW did he hang onto that?

What an incredible game. Definitely felt like we won the Natty that night.

For those of you who pay attention to other teams, lemme ask this: Are other fanbases as ****ing ridiculous as ours?

Instead of enjoying the afterglow of a national championship, we get constant caterwauling over every last thing that has happened since. Harbaugh leaves? OH NOES, we'll never win another game! Minter? DOOMED! Warde hasn't been fired? WE CAN'T COMPETE! Some 4 star commits elsewhere? WE CAN'T RECRUIT! Harbaugh might take more assistants with him? WE'RE GOING TO BE STUCK WITH TWO STAR COACHES!
Ohio State buys some transfers? WE'LL NEVER WIN AGAIN!

It's exhausting.

Thankfully there is always the option of turning off the internet. I might just have to do that, at least as it relates to Michigan football, until September. In the meantime I think I'll go buy a national champs hoodie.

Jesse Minter following JH to the Chargers to be his DC.

Mgoblog has been completely insufferable. At the same time I do sympathize with many of the "complainers/whiners/doom & gloomers" out there but the real source of their angst is their ridiculous expectations. People need to accept that Michigan is never gonna care about winning nearly as much as Ohio State, Bama, Georgia, LSU, Oregon, USC, FSU, Texas, etc, and by Michigan I mean the higher-ups (Not just Warde, gotta follow the money). That's what makes what happened the last 3 years that much more special. Harbaugh found a way to win at a super high level anyways even without the institutional support that other big time programs get. I think in time, more and more people will realize that what Harbaugh did is literally the greatest accomplishment in college football history and he should at least be in the argument of greatest football coach in history. We're literally the last real team to ever win it all, the last real team of student athletes EVER to win it all. The last team that doesn't illegally pay players to EVER win it all.

But the problem is the Harbaugh model is not sustainable becuz Harbaugh is gone. People need to be adults about that and understand that. We'll still be good. Like mostly 8-4 to 10-2 range but beating teams like Ohio state is once again gonna be something we do once or maybe twice a decade. That's just the reality of the situation. People need to stop crying about it. This is sports we're talking about. At the end of the day it doesn't ****ing matter. Just sit back, adjust your expectations and enjoy.

BTW on a very related note: I really see no way Moore is gonna survive. As I said before, next year with no QB + that schedule, it still looks like 7-5 to me, and 2025 is gonna be rough too (we have Oklahoma on the schedule) given how many defensive pieces we're losing. Projecting that far out is dumb but it's gonna be another rough year, probably 8-4. Now think about that. We just won a national title. Expectations are set at an all time high becuz people are dumb. Moore is gonna come in with the same lack of institutional support that has always been the Michigan way + major roster/QB issues + tough schedules, and disappoint and piss off everyone the first 2 years. I'm sure he'll get a token 3rd year cuz coaches usually get that but my god I seriously don't recall a coach more set up to fail than Moore. Moore could be as good as a coach as Saban and yet he'd still be a significant underdog to not get fired before year 4.

And again, none of the above bothers me. I know what Michigan is. Been watching them since 1988. I have no illusions. What Harbaugh accomplished despite all that can never be appreciated enough. I will be watching Michigan football porn of the last 3 years for the rest of my life. I'm still so happy now that we won it all. Seriously haven't went one day without watching Michigan porn since 1/8. But yeah we're gonna revert back to being a 9-3 type program save the next couple years which will probably be worse and I'm fine with that. In fact with the new playoff format we're literally entering a new era that is more friendly to a 9-3 type program than ever before.

It is remarkably difficult to be more than a “9-3” team - I would argue that there are only 3 teams that consistently exceed that level and it remains to be seen if Alabama stays there with Saban gone.

We should have learned from the RichRod and Hoke eras how hard it is just to stay in the 9-3 tier, but people seem to have forgotten that lesson.

I’m a little more optimistic about next year and about Sherrone than you are but the sniping after any loss is going to be awful.

Negativity fuels engagement.

Michael Schur made this point and I'll never forget it. The 2018 Boston Red Sox won 108 games and cruised through the playoffs to a World Series Title. They won more games than any MLB team in 17 years and set an all time franchise record for wins.

If you listened to any Sports call in show that year, you'd swear from the fan reaction that the team was on pace to go 70-92. I think people have internalized that being critical or negative makes them sound smarter, and combine that with the fact that positive statements don't get nearly the kind of engagement feedback that negative ones do.

Anyone ITT an actual UM alum? Son is a HS senior and applied there and ND for engineering (waiting on a final answer from both, though he applied early decision to UM and was pushed to the general applicant pool). Already accepted to some state schools.

Well the argument is Michigan has the resources to easily be one of the those stratospheric programs. They simply don't care to be. The higher-ups at Michigan are not religious about football like Ohio State and others. I think that's true but I'm not gonna go to mgoblog and complain about that every day.

People need to accept reality and move on and it shouldn't be hard cuz we're talking about sports here. ****ing sports--a nice distraction from the shitty reality we all have to endure living on this late stage capitalism/dying planet.

But people can't accept it cuz their freaking identity is somehow wrapped up in how Michigan performs on the field. It's sick. People need to grow up. Now I know from frequenting 11W that nearly every Buckeye fan is that way. But we're not Ohio. We're better than that!

This is why everyone who wanted Harbaugh fired in 2020 should feel ashamed forever. They should always look back and cringe at how stupid they were. Even before the magical 2021-23 run you could still say Harbaugh literally took this team out of the dark ages and brought them back to that 9-3 level.

And he did all that without ever finding a QB. And why couldn't he find that coveted QB to take the team to the next level??? Because it was obvious long before Harbaugh came that teams were no longer gonna get legit 5* QBs without illegally paying for them. Michigan wasn't willing to play that game because football simply isn't that important. Again Harbaugh brought the team out of the RR/Hoke dark ages with one hand tied behind his back. The reason Michigan wasn't living up to the expectations of idiots was institutional, not Harbaugh.

Recipe for 9-3/10-2 playoff run:

1) We need to retain all our important defensive players which I think they're gonna do.

2) Assuming no portal magic, Jadyn Davis needs to be the next Chad Henne.

That's it. Number two is the Deus ex machina we need to happen.

Assuming #2 doesn't happen I'm definitely gonna be ignoring mgoblog or any Michigan podcast after each loss. It will be unbearable.

Class of 2003 here. Useless economics degree.

Yup. I started out in the engineering program but decided in the middle of Linear Algebra that it just wasn’t going to happen. When people ask me why I do what I do, I tell them Math 417.

Good luck to your son, wherever he decides to attend. I wouldn’t trade my four years in Ann Arbor for anything.

I still remember the difference between 2015 and the six years that came before. Once Harbaugh came it was a program again. There was a basic level of competence that had been sorely missing. It was jarring.

Yep everyone who wanted Harbaugh fired had selective amnesia. It's like they didn't remember 2008-14 at all. How bad it can really get. I will never forget those years. I will be humbled forever by it. Harbaugh got us out of that wilderness and people didn't care at all, as if it was his fault Ohio State built an well oiled machine super empire. As if it's his fault he can't get that transformational QB--without paying for one--to get us to the next level. And then Harbaugh did the unimaginable. He beat Ohio State without a great QB. A good QB who I will always be grateful to, but not a great one. And in the meantime Day somehow thought McCord was better than McCarthy allowing us to backdoor into a transformational QB (something we'll never be able to do again in the NIL era). And the rest is history. Give Harbaugh a real QB and everyone is ****ed. 40-3. Three straight outright big ten titles (never been done before). 3 straight Ohio State beatdowns. And a ****ing national title. One of the greatest sports stories of all time that never would've happened if the selective amnesia morans had gotten their way.

One thing I'll be super interested to see next year is whether the offensive brain trust can be as effective at game planning as last year's staff.

If they can, it makes the lack of an established QB less of a concern. If you can scheme guys running wide open, your average QB suddenly looks pretty darned good in the pass game.

2010 Financial Mathematics.

Best of luck to your son getting into wherever he wants to go and getting as much financial aid as possible

Came back for this, one of the original places I started chatting with UofM faithful. What a ride, what a season, pure bliss, still enjoying it each morning I wake up. Love you all be safe and enjoy this. Never thought I’d see this title either Zimmer!


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Need a bigkid update. I have a relative that got accepted a couple weeks ago to UM Engineering. I think he's going, which is a major upset since he's from a very Sparty branch of the family.

Unfortunately didn’t get in. 1460 SATs—Purdue, ND, and UM engineering were no’s. Brutal this year…and I sure the Natty has made it even more competitive.

He has been offered a big scholarship and a path to ND engineering through Holy Cross next door (think Rudy route).

K-State and Mizzou are also options…should have a decision in the next 2 weeks.