emmanuel to SF
sanu to NE

I think those were 2 of our biggest competitors to land AJ green. If we can sign him and sign a reasonable 2 or 3 year extension I think we win 3 of the next 6 super bowls... See my quick math below:

Godgers + a league avg (maybe even slightly above avg.) defense+ 2 pretty good young RBs + adams + AJ + a first round WR next year + all the other draft capital going to O-line and defense = 3.67 of the next 6 super bowls

If they didn't trade for those two no way they're giving up most likely more for Green.

Packers doing Packers things. 2 undefeated teams go out to make their teams better while the Packers are like yeah let's stick with these UDFAs cuz Rodgers.

"In 180 snaps with Jones on the field and Williams on the sideline, the Packers have averaged 0.22 EPA per play, which would make them the best offense in football on a play-by-play basis. In 127 snaps with Williams on the field and Jones sitting out, though, the Packers have actually been a net negative on offense at -0.05 EPA per play, which is the equivalent of the 2019 Giants, who rank 25th in expected points added. If one back makes you the best offense in football and the other back makes you the Giants, I would go with the first guy."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...s-six-spots#gb

Favorite to have a playoff bye and a decent shot at #1 overall seed. It’s hard to imagine how good we’d be with 2 pass catchers that were NFL caliber.

Still like our chances to win the whole damn thing (knocks on wood).

The fact that the last 50ish posts ITT span a year from firing a long time head choke, to a bye in the playoffs, speaks to just how weirdly unexciting this season has been for the Packers. Imo. I usually put 100 on them preseason to win it all, totally spaced it this year, so my hopes are high.

Williams is a good player in my view. To me this more of a reflection on Packers lack of production at #2-4 WR positions and the TE position. Jones along with Adams are the two most productive skill position players. When Jones is out of the game there is a fall off with Williams. Valdes-Scanrling, Graham, Allison, Kummerow, and arguably Lazzard production have been below par. More productive WRs and TEs would raise the EPA for both Jones and Williams. Controlling snap counts for Jones to me is just good coaching. Expect Jones to get more time on the field than normal during the playoffs.

19 days since the last post ITT and we are playing today for a chance to go to the SB. Call me a homer but I like our chances today. If the o-line can block (a big if) and our non-Adams pass catchers can get open and catch at the level of a NFL practice squad WR (a huge if) we should win.

I'm not even excited for the game that's how little chance I think they have.

It's cool they're here but I'm feeling the same. I'll have higher expectations for next year's team assuming they add a solid 2nd WR.

Game went exactly as everyone thought.

I would try and trade Rodgers and rebuild but not sure what team would actually do that.

We spend first rounder on a WR OR get one of the top 3 WR FA and we are a top 5 SB favorite. You add in a 3rd or 4th round WR and now we are top 3.

Drew Brees indicated he’ll make a decision on retirement in the next month or so. Saints would be a candidate if Brees retires. Packers aren’t going to trade Rodgers though. Not sure if he has a no trade contract or not. Packers have been drafting defense seems like forever and there run defense still just sucks. I agree though that Rodgers contract is a drag on signing FAs.

Packers need help on both sides of the ball. Is Gary a bust? I expect the 12th pick in the draft that is a non QB to have more of an impact.

LOL at the packers trading Rodgers. Not only is he the most valuable player, but he is the best value for his contract that GB has.

I believe we are a top 3-4 team if any of the following happen:

1. sign AJ green and he is 85+% of what he was 3ish years ago.
2. sign Amari Cooper
3. spend our 1st & 2nd round picks on 2 WRs
4. spend our 1st round pick on a WR along with signing 2 late round WRs
5. get 1 of robby anderson/emmanuel sanders/cobb & spend a 1st rd pick on a WR

I agree with most of this especially LOL at trading Rodgers. Packers also need an ILB who can help in pass protection and stop the run. Martinez is probably going to get overpaid by a dumb team based on his tackle stats alone. I wouldn't hate if we took one in the first round considering how deep this WR class is.

Bulaga probably needs to be resigned or we'll have a massive hole at RT. Kenny Clark is gonna get extended. It will be interesting to see what happens with Crosby.

He's not going to be traded obviously but his play has not been to the level of his contract.

The WRs aren't great but he doesn't throw to them when they get open.

Fire Brian. Try to trade love for a 3rd or 4th round pick asap.

Well this draft seems really shitty. Gary last year as 12th pick in the draft and now this. Gute gotta go

Some beat writer for the Atlantic said the packers called HOU about a potential trade for will fuller. Knowing the Packers this is just them kicking the tires to see what is going on, but man I love our odds of a Super Bowl if we can land him (even better if we get him to agree to a reasonable long term deal).

Didn't sign AJG, didn't sign amari, didn't spend a 1st & 2nd on WRs, didn't spend a 1st on a WR + 2 late WRs, didn't get a FA WR and here we are as the 3rd favorite to win the super bowl this year.

I think I can confidently say that the defense is as mediocre/bad as I thought they'd be, the o-line & RB room is as good as I thought, our WRs outside of Adams are significantly worse than expected and Jesus 2.0 has us at 9-3 and 3rd favs to win a SB.

Godgers has done enough so far this season that there isn't anyone that can catch him to become the most valuable player in NFL.

In the nfc championship game and a favorite to make the super bowl and not a peep around here.

The last two years have done one thing for me: drastically intensified my hate for Mike McCarthy

Great article about what GB should do going forward/what GB won't do since it is the smart thing to do. Also, not to brag, but I have been pitching this exact idea since draft night to buddies.

Cliffs: Re-signing Aaron Jones was a mistake, but that is water under the bridge. Re-sign Godgers w/ more years & money to lower his cap hit this year and next to trade Love + a mid-rounder for Julio and re-sign Davante. If we trade love + a 2nd (or worse) for Julio and re-sign davante the chance of us winning less than 3 super in the next 5 years has to be less than 5%.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/sto...l-all-32-teams

"Rodgers has three years and $73 million remaining on his existing deal, so there's no issue with the idea of giving him a raise. Let's add two years and $90 million onto this deal for a total of five years and $163 million.

The bold figures here are guaranteed; Rodgers gets $98.5 million guaranteed at signing over the first three years of the deal. Combined with a no-trade clause, this deal locks him in as the Green Bay starter for at least three more seasons. It also crucially serves to bring his cap number down over the next two years, creating $14.9 million of space in 2021 and $9 million more in 2022.

Green Bay will want to use some of that space to lock up Davante Adams , but there's something else they can do with their room: trade for Jones , who is due $38.3 million over the next three years. The Falcons star gives the Packers a bit of leverage if the Adams negotiations don't go well and gives them a devastating one-two punch at wide receiver for 2021. In this scenario, Rodgers gets the job security he deserves and the second superstar target he's reportedly wanted.

And what, of all things, could the Packers send to Atlanta in return for Jones ? Well, the young quarterback whose future no longer seems to be as the Green Bay starter. Love would no longer have a clear path to the starting job as part of this trade, but he would slot in as the long-term replacement instead for Matt Ryan in Atlanta, possibly as early as next season. New Falcons coach Arthur Smith once worked under LaFleur in Tennessee, so I suspect he might also be interested in Love as a quarterback of the future. The Packers might have to throw in a midround pick to seal things, but extending Rodgers and swapping Love for Jones seems like a win-win for just about everyone."

Not a Packers fan per se, but just my two cents:

You may be overestimating how much Atlanta would want Love. Their coach having previously worked under GB's coach seems little relevant to whether they would value Love as their future QB. Unless they are planning on moving on from Matt Ryan soon, I doubt they would be interested, because the main value of a young QB is the QB playing while making much less $ than they would be as a veteran. Also, let's not forget that most of the rest of the league was in no hurry to pick Love a year ago, and that even in this past draft, nobody stepped up to take Fields (who was considered a potential #1 pick entering the season) until da Bears (QB talent evaluators extraordinaire) traded up to get him mid-first round. Meanwhile, teams varying from playoff quality (Colts) to playoff ready, just add QB (Broncos) to young team on the rise (Panthers) all seem content to roll with Wentz, Bridgewater/Locke and Darnold next season. Love was a dumb pick and it's not like teams are tripping over themselves to trade for him, even those that seem to have an obvious immediate need at QB. Atlanta's already been offered a first rounder for Jones, so Packers want him, they'll probably have to pony up a first rounder themselves (and a bit more, since it's a very low first rounder).