Interesting. How old were these packer fans and where? I've lived in La Crosse and Madison (for college) and nobody really cares at all about the Bears. It's 100% Viking hate. Always seemed to me that the only people who think the Bears are the Pack's biggest rivals are bear fans.

30's and 40's. Had a van with Ohio plates but it looked like it was a rental so no idea where they were from.

Bears are the Packers biggest rival ainec

This. I grew up around Lambeau, up there strolling on game day's and had them ride my bike. Bear week always has and will have a different feel about the game, it isn't the same as Viking week (minus the last 2 seasons for obvious reason)

Please play favre. Kind of sucks that game is Monday night, but I guess an extra day of rest won't hurt.

Def think an eagles win would be the better outcome. If the pack can't beat the giants at home they don't really deserve a playoff game.

Have tickets to the bears-packers game and I really hope the division isn't wrapped up by then. Going to be depressing listening to Bears fans all night if that's the case. ****ing Detroit. Let's go Vikes.

Yeah, sucks this could have been the biggest Packers Bears game in years. We can hope.

God we're going to get killed Sunday.

Obviously this. Will anyone care about the Vikings once Favre is gone?

anyone want to give a simple rundown of possible ways GB makes playoffs. (feasible ones obviously)

Lets start with the most plausible:

GB Loss vs NE
GB W vs NYG
GB W vs Chi

NYG Loss vs PHI
NYG Loss vs GB
NYG W vs WAS

TB W vs DET
TB W vs SEA
TB Loss vs NO

This puts all the teams at 10-6, GB wins the tiebreaker. This is the most plausible outcome for a wild card.

If the Bears lose to the Vikings, the Packers will control their own destiny for the division, regardless of the outcome of the NE game. If GB loses and Chicago wins, this weekend, the Bears clinch the North.

Thank you sir. And wow, we have a better chance than I was thinking. Obviously have to count NE as a loss, and that game doesn't seem to matter all that much.

I mean who knows too. The Vikings Bears game could be terrible weather increasing variance. (which is obviously ideal considering the Vikings this year) Also, it seems very plausable the other teams do their part (ie. Eagles can beat NY...Bucs lose to NO) Obviously this is still pending the Packers winning the final 2 games but that's all you can ask for!

Go PACK.

Here is an even better kicker for the wild card. Assuming the WC scenario is the same as above, with the exception being NYG losing the WASH, TB would make the playoffs over GB. GB only would hold the tiebreaker if NYG, TB AND GB are 10-6. Definitely one of the strangest scenarios I have seen.

In a head-to-head tiebreak with TB, GB loses because of common opponents. However, in a 3 way tie, TB is the first team eliminated due to being 3rd in their division, vice GB and NYG being second. Then GB wins the head to head against NYG.

So Eagles this weekend, that is the must!!!

Yes a Philly win would be huge. And although very, very unlikely the Packers can go in and beat New England, I wouldn't call the game meaningless. Because if the Pack can somehow pull the upset, the Bears cannot clinch the division regardless of the outcome with the Vikings.

Tom Silverstein of the Journal did a good job of discussing playoff scenarios if interested.

Division situation

Wild Card

I feel kind of dirty that we might have ruined your season as you guys were my SB pick

Rodgers out. Awesome.

WHY COULDNT YOU JUST ****ING SLIDE.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/112124479.html

I mean, this is technically the best game to have him out.

Injury update: players who have missed a game or more

- Aaron Rodgers QB
- Ryan Grant RB - out for season
- Jermichael Finley TE
- Donald Lee TE
- Clay Matthews OLB
- Frank Zombo OLB
- Cullen Jenkins DE
- Atari Bigby S
- Charlie Peprah S

And I'm pretty sure I've missed more.

I'm pretty sure this isn't even half the list.

Mark Tauscher RT - IR
Anthony Smith S - IR
Nick Barnett LB - IR
Brad Jones LB- IR
Brady Poppinga LB - IR
Ryan Pickett DT - missed a few games
Derrick Martin S - IR
Morgan Brunett S - IR

I'm sure I'm missing a few more, but that's what I got just off the top of my head.

Not sure if Capers is a ****ing genius, or if the Packers depth is just that good, in which case Ted Thompson is a genius. How the hell are the Packers the #1 scoring defense in the league?

Correct me if I'm wrong... But if we get Head to head tied with NYG we would win the tiebreak? (I think that's what I read) In that case we should be hoping for TB to lose as many as possible. (So go mighty Lions one more time pls??) And I think this is good because I don't think it's a near certainty that TB wins the next 2 games before the expected loss against NO.

So tomorrow and Monday: (aside from GB upset against the Patriots)

Rooting for:

#1a. Vikings (please be freezing)
#1b. Eagles
#2. Lions

Tell me if I'm wrong or missing another good opportunity.

You are not wrong, it's just that if GB has to be worried about a tiebreak with TB. Since, GB wins a tie break vs just NYG, wins a tiebreak in a 3-way tie with TB and NYG, but lose if its only against TB. Oh, and it shouldn't be 1 a and b. It should be Vikings 1, only. Vikings giving GB control of their destiny for the division is by far the most important.

Yes, no doubt. I guess I just did it like that because I don't have much faith in the Vikings and considered the WC the best bet.

Just to explain this tie breaker if this exact scenario happens.

Green Bay: 10-6
New York: 10-6
Tampa Bay: 10-6

List of tie breakers:

1. Head to head: Not Applicable. GB, TB, and NY would all of had to play each other. They didn't.

2. Head to head sweep: Not Applicable. See above reasoning.

3. Record in Conference: Not Applicable. All 3 teams would be 8-4 vs NFC oppenents.
4. Record in Common Games: Not Applicable. There is a minimum of 4 games, which isn't reached.

5. Strength of Victory: Current SOV through 13 games:
GB .410
NY .393
TB .276

Tampa Bay gets eliminated from this scenario.

Now this leaves NY and GB and the tie breaker goes back to number 1, which is Head to Head and with the scenario above happening, NY is eliminated and GB would become the #6 seed.

Good post...

I want to get back in the playoffs so bad!! I literally feel pain when the Packers lose lol.

It's Capers, he is a genius!!!

ted thompson pretty genius too iyam.