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10-17-2010 , 04:31 PM
I think we're officially at over half the team on the injury report. Fire McCarthy for not realizing this and not giving Bulaga any help.
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10-17-2010 , 04:40 PM
Every Packers game is like an accident I can't look away from. They just can't seem to keep from ****ing up and losing.
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10-17-2010 , 08:24 PM
lifes3ps, it isn't that we don't have a run game, it is that we don't run it enough. Jackson has a 4.6 ypc on the season. Kuhn, 4.2. We need to run it more. Today Jackson had 45 yds at half off 10 carries. He had 2 carries in the 2nd half for 8 yds. That is a good avg. we need to run it more often.

But yes time management is horrible, it is 4th down and goal for the game. Lets hurry up, use our last TO so when we score and tie we have to kick off to them and give them a play or 2. I had business to attend to so I was in the car listening on the radio. 1st thing I said was, why not call TO there with 2 or 3 secs so there is no time left regardless. Then I heard Larivee say there was flags on the play and I thought, "great, now a PI gives them a FG opportunity" These little mistakes shouldn't be getting made.
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10-17-2010 , 10:09 PM
Agree that the running game isn't that bad. Not trading for Marshawn Lynch or DeAngelo isn't the reason that those games were lost. Jackson has looked good the last 3 weeks imo...but when he gets 31 carries in 3 games, kind of hard for him to showcase his talents. As someone mentioned earlier, take out that long run v. Washington and he still had 9 rushes for 44 yards.

As bad as the game was today, still an opportunity to win. Similar to last week, Washington looked horrible for 90% of the game, but managed to pull one out. Was hoping the Pack could do the same this week.

I feel like McCarthy wouldn't be the only coach to make that time mistake on 4th down, but do agree his time management is piss poor.

Felt Bulaga got thrown into a bad spot today. ZERO help at all and Wake is a beast. Maybe not, but Packers sure made him look like one.

TJ Lang playing D pretty much summarizes my feelings about the season through 6 weeks.

Huge lol @ the strength and conditioning. And special teams. And play calling. And time management. And ability to put teams away/cash in on opportunities.

Don't know if you can have a "must win" when you're 3-3 and only 1 game behind possibly the worst 4-2 team in the history of sports, but does anyone else get the feeling that the Vikings are going to find a way to win the division if they win next Sunday night?

Last edited by mclaughlin04; 10-17-2010 at 10:26 PM. Reason: asfohaoisfhaosugfoaugsf boo
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10-17-2010 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bacats32
lifes3ps, it isn't that we don't have a run game, it is that we don't run it enough. Jackson has a 4.6 ypc on the season. Kuhn, 4.2. We need to run it more. Today Jackson had 45 yds at half off 10 carries. He had 2 carries in the 2nd half for 8 yds. That is a good avg. we need to run it more often.

But yes time management is horrible, it is 4th down and goal for the game. Lets hurry up, use our last TO so when we score and tie we have to kick off to them and give them a play or 2. I had business to attend to so I was in the car listening on the radio. 1st thing I said was, why not call TO there with 2 or 3 secs so there is no time left regardless. Then I heard Larivee say there was flags on the play and I thought, "great, now a PI gives them a FG opportunity" These little mistakes shouldn't be getting made.
its not running the ball i disagree w/, its how and when. there was 1 or 2 draws on 1st down in the 2nd half which w/ our O line i dont like because its not really a great situation for a draw especially on first when youre 50/50 run/pass. and the same w/ the 2nd and 3rd down carries on teh goal line. those are situations you have to rely on your oline to win. im not that confident in them. jackson is at his best in space, he cant read holes any better than a freshman in college and never sees a cutback.

i view our game as decent getting yards but not short yardage when everyones looking at it, the interior of our line is not that strong.
yes we have decent ypa, but obviously that will go down as the attempts go up, its not like well keep that average

i would have liked to see a roll out pa or plain rollout to give rodgers the option, which is what eventually happened w/ the 4th down conversion (audible).

get bulaga some ****ing help
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10-18-2010 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by lifes3ps
jackson is at his best in space, he cant read holes any better than a freshman in college and never sees a cutback.

i view our game as decent getting yards but not short yardage when everyones looking at it, the interior of our line is not that strong.
yes we have decent ypa, but obviously that will go down as the attempts go up, its not like well keep that average
to point 1, Jackson obv sees holes better than college seniors or he wouldn't be in the NFL or have started at Nebraska.

2nd point, the ypc may drop, but not that much. Kuhn gets 4.4 ypc on the season. Both of those are more than respectable averages. They need to do something, and this is it IMO. Run more from power formations, yes you say it right, those draws are horrible, line up and run from 1st down once in a while.
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10-18-2010 , 12:12 AM
Another thing I heard in post game on the radio was all the 3 and outs.
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10-18-2010 , 02:12 AM
10-18-2010 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mclaughlin04
Don't know if you can have a "must win" when you're 3-3 and only 1 game behind possibly the worst 4-2 team in the history of sports, but does anyone else get the feeling that the Vikings are going to find a way to win the division if they win next Sunday night?
Yeah, the Vikings game is huge now. I can't be too doomsday-thinking about this team considering the 3 losses were OT, OT, Bear-Luckbox.. but the injuries make it hard to be positive.
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10-18-2010 , 03:18 AM
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The ball is on the 44, his right foot appears to be on the 43 and he is clearly covering the center. Appears to be the right call.
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10-18-2010 , 03:37 AM
That ball is behind the 43, and I say his right foot MAY be at the 44. A yard in few inches is still more than a yard. With something that close there needs to be 100% certainty to call it, especially with how it altered the entire game.
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10-18-2010 , 04:11 AM
How about he lines up with a few inches to spare and not give the refs an excuse to make a ****ty call? I'm so tired of this team finding dumb ways to lose.
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10-18-2010 , 08:51 AM
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How about he lines up with a few inches to spare and not give the refs an excuse to make a ****ty call? I'm so tired of this team finding dumb ways to lose.
This, he is super close so why not just not line up there or give more space. The rule is there to protect the LS the same way they protect the QB.

Besides it isn't like this play was with 2 min to go and then they score the TD. They still had to drive more yds, still GB gave up a TD, still had opportunities to win this game. Calls have went in GB's favor that get missed, can't blame officials for every game lost. Some time GB has to blame themselves and look in the mirror. Comes down to McCarthy and his brilliance with his play calling.

I read an article last night where it is saying the defense isn't good enough. If it means not good enough to help an underachieving offense than it is correct. IMO the defense has more than done it's share.
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10-18-2010 , 09:37 AM
Yeah whatever I'm sick of the Pack finding dumb ways to lose too but we did lose all three games by a FG and clearly had opportunities to win all 3...plus this division is not very good right now. But this upcoming game vs. the Vikes is kind of a must win, I think they have the most talented roster (especially now that half our team is on the IR) and should be favored to win the division should they win this Sunday. Plus I cannot take another loss to Favre at Lambeau, I know they're going to show 100000 clips of last year's game and it's going to kill me
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10-18-2010 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bacats32
This, he is super close so why not just not line up there or give more space. The rule is there to protect the LS the same way they protect the QB.
There are rules to protect the QB??

How are these enforced? Do the refs go over and whisper to players "nono, you shouldn't do that!" between plays? There sure as **** aren't any flags accompanying said "rules" for ARod lately.
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10-18-2010 , 02:12 PM
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There are rules to protect the QB??

How are these enforced? Do the refs go over and whisper to players "nono, you shouldn't do that!" between plays? There sure as **** aren't any flags accompanying said "rules" for ARod lately.
this.

recievers can check w/ a side judge at the beginning of every play to see if theyre lined up- not ahead of the line of scrimmage) i knwo this doesnt prevent illegal formations, which may be a better argument for why the guy cant check
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10-18-2010 , 02:46 PM
im already enraged thinking about losing to the vikings.
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10-18-2010 , 02:51 PM
Packers reacquire S Anthony Smith for conditional pick, placed Finley on IR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLTXH5ZNDwg

Not who I was expecting but I will take him over Peprah.
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10-18-2010 , 03:28 PM
anyone want to take bets on when the # of starters will on the team will be less than the # of replacements starting?

al harris=starter
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10-18-2010 , 04:03 PM
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this.

recievers can check w/ a side judge at the beginning of every play to see if theyre lined up- not ahead of the line of scrimmage) i knwo this doesnt prevent illegal formations, which may be a better argument for why the guy cant check
I guess I am not understanding this. Receivers can check and should check with the official to make sure they are lined up correctly. If they do this the official has to let them know, and if they say they are lined up ok, they can't throw a flag because they would have been lying to the player. So I guess good point, they should be checking with the official. Only problem here is the new way the official's line up. The umpire is now back with the head referee. It is stupid. They need to put it back the old way. Now the LB can't just turn and ask the umpire, now the closest official to the MLB is 20yds away!!!
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10-18-2010 , 06:52 PM
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How about he lines up with a few inches to spare and not give the refs an excuse to make a ****ty call? I'm so tired of this team finding dumb ways to lose.
Why not just make the rule a yard and a few inches then? The rule is a yard. He is clearly a yard (plus looks like a few inches) away. Should not have been a penalty.
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10-18-2010 , 07:41 PM
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Why not just make the rule a yard and a few inches then? The rule is a yard. He is clearly a yard (plus looks like a few inches) away. Should not have been a penalty.
There is an imaginary plane that goes up, just like the goal line. If your helmet is across even though your feet are not, you are offsides.
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10-19-2010 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bacats32
I guess I am not understanding this. Receivers can check and should check with the official to make sure they are lined up correctly. If they do this the official has to let them know, and if they say they are lined up ok, they can't throw a flag because they would have been lying to the player. So I guess good point, they should be checking with the official. Only problem here is the new way the official's line up. The umpire is now back with the head referee. It is stupid. They need to put it back the old way. Now the LB can't just turn and ask the umpire, now the closest official to the MLB is 20yds away!!!
my understanding was after a motion shift its the WRs responsiblilty to make sures hes covering (not covering) T/TE, hence some illegal formation penalties
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10-19-2010 , 07:31 AM
My head hurts from reading all of that...why are we talking about 1 penalty with 7 minutes left to go that had little to do with the outcome of the game? It's not like they called that in OT and kept the game winning FG drive alive.
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10-19-2010 , 09:01 AM
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my understanding was after a motion shift its the WRs responsiblilty to make sures hes covering (not covering) T/TE, hence some illegal formation penalties
it is the WR's responsibility, but some of that responsibility is asking the official if you are lined up correctly. The official isn't going to go out of their way to say, "hey WR, you are lined up illegally"

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My head hurts from reading all of that...why are we talking about 1 penalty with 7 minutes left to go that had little to do with the outcome of the game? It's not like they called that in OT and kept the game winning FG drive alive.
I agree here. So many are making a big deal on talk radio. Making my head explode. People are acting like it was a last second game winner missed and the penalty gave them a 2nd shot which went through.
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