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04-30-2016 , 11:33 AM
Them sites won't be anywhere near DK.

DK is quick, easy, reliable & pretty well structured. Just looking at the main page of FantasyBet it's enough to get your average player to just close the site down and go somewhere else. There has been reliability issues with other sites too.

I don't like sites that have no salary cap. The issue with DK is that the football side isn't growing very well and the regs can put in 100 teams, the leaderboard reading of the GTD prizepools is pretty grim. NBA doesn't seem to have that problem, nor does the golf.
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04-30-2016 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyM2033
Them sites won't be anywhere near DK.

DK is quick, easy, reliable & pretty well structured. Just looking at the main page of FantasyBet it's enough to get your average player to just close the site down and go somewhere else. There has been reliability issues with other sites too.

I don't like sites that have no salary cap. The issue with DK is that the football side isn't growing very well and the regs can put in 100 teams, the leaderboard reading of the GTD prizepools is pretty grim. NBA doesn't seem to have that problem, nor does the golf.
Indeed DK's app and site is slick. None of the other DFS sites even come close in this aspect. Except BuaBook which is more spread trading than fantasy. But their platform is of the highest standard and liking it a lot so far.

But DK football game seems an after thought than something they have put an effort in when you compare it to MLB, Golf and DFS. Yes, the leaderboard of with one entrant taking all the spaces does look grim and hence why I stick to 3 entry max games most of the time. Golf 3 entry max games are sweet.
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04-30-2016 , 07:30 PM
Just sharing some of these articles. It does to take a while to get the hang of the trading and good to see they doing a series of explanatory articles on the match markets.

The platform is still on Beta and good time to practice using small volume trades.

Here is an example of two players (Lyon's Alexandre Lacazette & Rachid Ghezzal) graphs and stats from tonight Ligue 1 game. Slick as it comes.

https://www.buabook.com/player/3059/prices/game

https://www.buabook.com/player/3059/stats/game

https://www.buabook.com/player/3059/graph/game

https://www.buabook.com/player/3063/prices/game

https://www.buabook.com/player/3063/graph/game

https://www.buabook.com/player/3063/stats/game


http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/ja...-Match-Markets

http://www.whoscored.com/News/x0nd6q...k-Match-Market

http://www.whoscored.com/News/bvigxl...ace-vs-Everton

https://www.whoscored.com/Articles/7...-Match-Markets
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05-01-2016 , 04:38 AM
question is how big is liquidity and spreads on this trading site
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05-01-2016 , 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Greel13
question is how big is liquidity and spreads on this trading site
Liquidity is fine they just started the match markets including European games last month, so few hundred traders there. Guessing more on the seasonal market which has only Premier League teams in it. It will grow with advertising from WhoScored.

Commission is 1% compared to 10% rake that is the norm on DFS sites. The spread is reasonable too.
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05-01-2016 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Garrincha67
Liquidity is fine they just started the match markets including European games last month, so few hundred traders there. Guessing more on the seasonal market which has only Premier League teams in it. It will grow with advertising from WhoScored.

Commission is 1% compared to 10% rake that is the norm on DFS sites. The spread is reasonable too.
thanks for that info. but there is something i don't get. if the price is made by the market, what is the need of that fair price?
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05-01-2016 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Greel13
thanks for that info. but there is something i don't get. if the price is made by the market, what is the need of that fair price?
The Fair Price was mainly used for the seasonal market. "Fair Price : The cumulative gains & losses a player earns over the course of the premier league season".

For example most Leicester players will have been bought on low at the start of the season for a tidy profit now. As most will have misjudged their season performance from which the cumulative fair price is derived from.

So on the match markets, the fair price is solely based on the single match performance. Those trading buying or selling depending where they judge it will settle at the end of the match.

Buying if you think players will score, assist, keep a clean sheet. Or selling if you think they will concede, no assist or goals and give up many fouls and cards.

The well-known teams and players tend to trade on high prices so hard to find good value. But lots of value in the lesser known teams & players from La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga and Dutch Eredivisie.

Once they announce the fixtures that will be traded, best to focus and do home work on the lesser known teams. Las Palmas from last week as an example were on very low prices despite their players being in good form duly delivering.

Traders tend to know Juventus, Dortmund, Bayern Munich, Paris SG, Real, Barcelona, Atheltico Madrid hence price them up highly. While undervaluing other smaller teams which one can exploit across the different leagues on offer.

It took me a while to get the hang of it and recommend printing the detailed learning guide, glossary, scoring prices and FAQ.

For those that like daily fantasy games, have a wide knowledge of football players and teams can transfer it to this platform. Much better than starting from scratch when trying to do homework each Gameweek.

https://www.buabook.com/static/conte....html?overview

https://www.buabook.com/static/conte...breakdown.html

Last edited by Garrincha67; 05-01-2016 at 09:21 PM.
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05-03-2016 , 05:42 AM
Can you build a team with Ronaldo in MG contest UCL 03-04/05/2016 ??

Need to insert subs for build a team with him .....
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05-03-2016 , 05:02 PM
Lahm has to be the most tilting defender to watch basically ever. I swear I counted at least 10 cross opportunities but instead he cuts inside.....
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05-03-2016 , 06:14 PM
The KDB assist didnt count as an assist because it took a touch off the defender. But when Torres slips in a through pass and it takes a touch off the defender that is good for an assist and 6 points

Very good consistency DK/OPTA, you cant have one set of rules one week and another set for the next week.

You can see the touch at 22 secs below if you missed it in real time.

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05-04-2016 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dev123
The KDB assist didnt count as an assist because it took a touch off the defender. But when Torres slips in a through pass and it takes a touch off the defender that is good for an assist and 6 points

Very good consistency DK/OPTA, you cant have one set of rules one week and another set for the next week.
I can't say much for other sports but the problem with so many of these scoring multipliers in football is that much of it is open to human interpretation. So it depends who's sitting there at opta tallying the match.

Something I've wondered about is this - suppose the ref decides to play an 'advantage' and let the play continue instead of giving a free kick for a foul. Are the 'fouls won' and 'fouls committed' points taken into consideration here? A different ref could blow his whistle in the same scenario which would be hugely inconsistent.
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05-04-2016 , 04:24 PM
Rofl went from bale having a goal and carvajal having an assist to both having neither. Pretty lol

Obviously biased and annoyed as ****, but is that really an own goal?

Last edited by Mzbourg; 05-04-2016 at 04:44 PM.
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05-04-2016 , 05:52 PM
Same and also felt like it was bs.
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05-04-2016 , 06:27 PM
It's a pretty big money jump which is why it's so annoying. Unless I missed something, I am actually winning both gpps I am in if the points would've gotten rewarded.
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05-04-2016 , 07:32 PM
All my hate to the guy that decided that was an own goal!
😡😡😡😡😡😡
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05-04-2016 , 09:10 PM
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I can't say much for other sports but the problem with so many of these scoring multipliers in football is that much of it is open to human interpretation. So it depends who's sitting there at opta tallying the match.
Well I think the wisdom of the crowd effect should be good enough to get 99% of these decisions correct. Rather than having one guy clicking buttons I am sure that if OPTA get a panel of people together, maybe 5 or so, with footballing brains to look over the close decisions and vote they would get them spot on and not miss much.

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Something I've wondered about is this - suppose the ref decides to play an 'advantage' and let the play continue instead of giving a free kick for a foul. Are the 'fouls won' and 'fouls committed' points taken into consideration here? A different ref could blow his whistle in the same scenario which would be hugely inconsistent.
I am pretty certain that if the play doesn't stop and the Ref does not give the decision then the foul is not committed and no points are awarded or deducted unless of course the ref books the offending player when play stops. If the ref waves play on and you get nothing then that is your cue to shout and swear at the TV.

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Rofl went from bale having a goal and carvajal having an assist to both having neither. Pretty lol

Obviously biased and annoyed as ****, but is that really an own goal?
Mate I would say it was defo an own goal. If you check any of the football scoring apps, livescore, champions league app, sofascore etc they all list it as an own goal.

The general rule is; if the shot is on target and deflects and goes in for a goal then the goal is given to the attacking player.

If the shot was not on target and goes in for a goal it gets marked down as an own goal. Bale was attempting a cross which he confirmed in the interview so that was not on target and goes down as an own goal. I can understand Bale owners feeling aggrieved especially with that header off the bar as well, but I think that was the correct decision to award an own goal.

However for Bale to get nothing for the goal seems wrong to me. I think if it goes down as an own goal then Bale should get the assist points. I've suggested this to DK and if others agree then you could maybe email them as well to get it changed for next season.

I would also like to see players who are fouled for free kicks and pens get the assist points when they are converted.
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05-04-2016 , 11:02 PM
Ya sucks bale thing was og cost me a few k and but was defo and own goal.
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05-05-2016 , 04:58 AM
Clearly a horrifically generalised question, but what EPL teams do we think still have "something to play for" ?
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05-05-2016 , 05:57 AM
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Clearly a horrifically generalised question, but what EPL teams do we think still have "something to play for" ?


My thoughts broken down by order of possibly playing at full effort.

Anyone in relegation battle: Sunderland, Newcastle, Norwich

Anyone battling for Europe:
Man Utd, Man City. Potentially Arsenal (but we all know not to put too much faith in them). Arguably West Ham (They also have their last ever game in their home ground for more than 100yrs, so will want to go out on a high)

Potentially Chelsea, they have to impress new manager who apparently is ruthless and also have a lot of players trying to get into their countries Euro 2016 squad.

Potentially Southampton trying to get into European spot.

Teams to be wary of

Liverpool if they get to the final or Europa, they will play kids in the league until the final, if they go out then they probably don't have much to play for.

Everyone else has basically checked out
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05-05-2016 , 09:35 AM
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Mate I would say it was defo an own goal. If you check any of the football scoring apps, livescore, champions league app, sofascore etc they all list it as an own goal.

The general rule is; if the shot is on target and deflects and goes in for a goal then the goal is given to the attacking player.

If the shot was not on target and goes in for a goal it gets marked down as an own goal. Bale was attempting a cross which he confirmed in the interview so that was not on target and goes down as an own goal. I can understand Bale owners feeling aggrieved especially with that header off the bar as well, but I think that was the correct decision to award an own goal.

However for Bale to get nothing for the goal seems wrong to me. I think if it goes down as an own goal then Bale should get the assist points. I've suggested this to DK and if others agree then you could maybe email them as well to get it changed for next season.

I would also like to see players who are fouled for free kicks and pens get the assist points when they are converted.
Damn Bale confirming he was attempting a cross!:P. But yeah it's all good. Header off the bar was more painful. Basically needed 9 points to finish first in all gpps and I had Bale, Carvajal or Kroos to get me those. So yeah, was just tilting as **** to go from winning 1400+ to winning 500. What was even more tilting was Bale doing literally nothing the 2nd half, pretty sure he was injured or something
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05-05-2016 , 11:26 AM
Yeah was defo an OG. Wasn't going anywhere near the goal before it took that deflection, can't believe it even went down as a Bale goal in the first place.
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05-06-2016 , 01:51 PM
Hey guys, I was wondering if there are any tools/sheets avaiable for fantasy soccer. I did a lot o searching but had no success finding anything useful. I would appreciate if you guys could help me out.
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05-07-2016 , 10:00 AM
Gonna probably have to build your own, everyone I know has had to. Then tweak tweak tweak lol


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05-07-2016 , 10:35 AM
somehow dodged Randolf haha
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05-07-2016 , 10:42 AM
FPL scoring would be awful for dfs no ty.
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