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Old 01-09-2013, 06:39 PM   #176
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Don't want to be condescending but I've done loads of drafts on here. They take forever
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:47 PM   #177
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I think the point of a co owner is so if one can't be at the draft the other fills in
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:47 PM   #178
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Re: Multi-Sport Dynasty League Interest??

fwiw i dont like alot of bench spots, it just leads to hoarding of young players

in this kind of no salary system just straight keep everyone format alot of teams might not want to reupp for next year if they feel that they drafted too poorly and it might take many years to be competitive.

i think a keeper type system might be better/more interesting(with alot of bench spots), where you have say ~20 keepers that you have to allocate however you decide over all 3 sports. ideally this would be done in early september (last month of baseball season, football about to start, basketball a month away)
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:36 PM   #179
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fwiw i dont like alot of bench spots, it just leads to hoarding of young players

in this kind of no salary system just straight keep everyone format alot of teams might not want to reupp for next year if they feel that they drafted too poorly and it might take many years to be competitive.

i think a keeper type system might be better/more interesting(with alot of bench spots), where you have say ~20 keepers that you have to allocate however you decide over all 3 sports. ideally this would be done in early september (last month of baseball season, football about to start, basketball a month away)
I really hate the idea of making this into a keeper league, which is pretty much what your suggesting. The entire point of a dynasty league is to have the right balance of older players who can produce well for you now and young players who will be building blocks of your team for the future. The strategy of that is exactly why I love the dynasty format and doing keepers instead like your suggesting takes that away completely. And it's not like people are going to be completely screwed if they draft predominately older players, there will be rookie drafts for every sport. Which is also why we need larger benches to have enough space to be able to take in a few rookies every year.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:57 PM   #180
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I really hate the idea of making this into a keeper league, which is pretty much what your suggesting. The entire point of a dynasty league is to have the right balance of older players who can produce well for you now and young players who will be building blocks of your team for the future. The strategy of that is exactly why I love the dynasty format and doing keepers instead like your suggesting takes that away completely. And it's not like people are going to be completely screwed if they draft predominately older players, there will be rookie drafts for every sport. Which is also why we need larger benches to have enough space to be able to take in a few rookies every year.
agree 100% with this. i really hope this stays a dynasty league as that was one of the big attractions for me.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:45 AM   #181
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Re: Multi-Sport Dynasty League Interest??

its not a dealbreaker for me, but im 100% with dynasty > keeper

i also think we should draft fewer than the total # of roster spots. that way i can trade mike trout for 20 draft picks.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:48 AM   #182
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Re: Multi-Sport Dynasty League Interest??

also fwiw, in the google doc im in the "5x5 roto h2h each category" category, same as what i was talking about
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:08 AM   #183
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I vote H2H for all (ppr in football, no playoffs in baseball or basketball)
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:28 AM   #184
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I updated the spreadsheet to add in loose and Othello who didn't really care what we did. It looks like H2H for everything is what the majority wants.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:52 AM   #185
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Looks like stopped raining men is the only one who hasn't voted. I say we have a deadline for this, then replace him if he doesn't vote. We need to get things rolling.

I also say that dues for all 3 sports should be paid up front yearly.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:35 AM   #186
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Re: Multi-Sport Dynasty League Interest??

I am shooting rainingmen a pm. Know there are a few who mentioned wanting in if we had someone drop out.

For the voting, it might not matter anyway. Looks like H2H won all the sports (if you take out the people not voting on purpose)..

For payment. I would also say it should all be paid up front. I would also say if you want to trade a future pick, you have to pay $50 toward the next year so we dont have people going for win now mode and then leaving

For the draft.. I think a hybrid might work. We all try and pick a couple days over the next 6 weeks or so that we can get one person from each team togther in a chat room for about 2 hours or so. We will start the draft asap in thread. When those times come up, we pick as many rounds as we can in chat room. After that back to thread. And then finish out in a final chat room draft if we need. In thread would have like a 12 hour clock (with nighttime not counting) for skipping though to try and avoid anyone being skipped.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:18 AM   #187
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I really hate the idea of making this into a keeper league, which is pretty much what your suggesting. The entire point of a dynasty league is to have the right balance of older players who can produce well for you now and young players who will be building blocks of your team for the future. The strategy of that is exactly why I love the dynasty format and doing keepers instead like your suggesting takes that away completely. And it's not like people are going to be completely screwed if they draft predominately older players, there will be rookie drafts for every sport. Which is also why we need larger benches to have enough space to be able to take in a few rookies every year.
i'm saying with a larger number of bench spots, i'd want some kind of mechanism which would ensure some roster turnover because pretty much every player of any significance will be owned. i think its ok with the default amount of roster spots. i dont see why you cant have young players with less roster spots? that just adds to the strategy of cost/future benefit on rostering young players.

for example in baseball, if we roll with 30 man rosters + minor league spots, its going to play more like a 16 team league in terms of players owned, which is crazy deep and will play like an AL or NL only league.

whatever just my .02
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:38 AM   #188
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I updated the spreadsheet to add in loose and Othello who didn't really care what we did. It looks like H2H for everything is what the majority wants.


so is basketballl h2h roto? is that how it works?
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:43 AM   #189
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Were having spots for minor leaguers?

Maybe rosters should be our next vote
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:29 PM   #190
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Re: Multi-Sport Dynasty League Interest??

sorry, didn't realize this was ramping up. re-reading what i've missed then will vote

edit: voted
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:43 PM   #191
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Re: Multi-Sport Dynasty League Interest??

Ok cool. Since everyone has voted, I think we can declare H2H the winner in all 3 sports.. Next
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:43 PM   #192
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Re: Multi-Sport Dynasty League Interest??

In regards to minors, baseball I think needs minor leaguers.. Not a ton. Maybe 5-7. And that would be a different draft than this. The main draft would not include any minor leaguers (or guys who havent been ROY eligible) in baseball, or any college kids in football or basketball. Before each season we would just have a small rookie draft to cover them..

I think the next 2 things that need voting are the specifics of the setups.
Football:
PPR?
Passing TD points?
2wr/3wr?
Baseball:
Type of H2H?
Cats
Basketball:
Type of H2H?
Cats

We also need roster size votes. I would vote on # of roster spots over the default. Say 0,2,4,6. This would be per sport..

Last thing is probably type of draft and waivers. Draft would be if we use the 3 round reversal or anything different. And waivers would be if we used normal rolling waivers
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:09 PM   #193
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Re: Multi-Sport Dynasty League Interest??

Football-
PPR
2 wr
Baseball-
5x5 h2h roto
Basketball-
9 cat h2h roto

At least 6 over on rosters
I think we NEED to do 3rr. The top of this draft is extremely top heavy and will give the owners who have the picks at the top of the draft a ridiculously big advantage over everyone else if we just do normal snake.
$100 waiver budget for each sport
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:10 PM   #194
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Is this going to be on the worksheet?
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:10 PM   #195
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Yea.. About to put it there..
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:13 PM   #196
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i'm saying with a larger number of bench spots, i'd want some kind of mechanism which would ensure some roster turnover because pretty much every player of any significance will be owned. i think its ok with the default amount of roster spots. i dont see why you cant have young players with less roster spots? that just adds to the strategy of cost/future benefit on rostering young players.

for example in baseball, if we roll with 30 man rosters + minor league spots, its going to play more like a 16 team league in terms of players owned, which is crazy deep and will play like an AL or NL only league.

whatever just my .02
Your saying that you want to make this into a keeper league, I'm saying that making this a keeper league would completely ruin this league for me and would probably be a deal breaker.
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so is basketballl h2h roto? is that how it works?
No, there are different ways of doing it. None of them are as good as h2h roto tho imo.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:17 PM   #197
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Re: Multi-Sport Dynasty League Interest??

Yea, I think it needs to stay a dynasty.. We dont have to go crazy with benches, but with rookie drafts and being able to trade from other sports, you should be able to obtain almost any player you want. Since you arent just stuck with 1 lineup and have to rely on waivers or a draft to fix it, you should be able to move resources from other sports to fix a sport
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:22 PM   #198
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Voting sheet is updated... You can start voting.. Again, wes is voting for our team so I can stay out of it a little
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:24 PM   #199
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Voting sheet is updated... You can start voting.. Again, wes is voting for our team so I can stay out of it a little
I am? Thanks for the pressure lol
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:26 PM   #200
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Haha...Just wanted to make it clear in case there is a tie or something.. I dont want to make it seem like I am taking the side of something I voted for or against
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