I'm in for sure. Karak, please throw out a draft date so people can start preparing (read, so the stat nerds can review their spreadsheets
) Some additional thoughts on what Karak outlined earlier:
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Ok, time to get this started. I think 50-100 dollars is the best amount to do, especially for a league like this that will require a decent amount of time.
I'd like to see the buy-in set at $50. I was kind of hoping the option of making side-bets throughout the season would keep it interesting for those who wanted a higher buy-in, but I'm fine with whatever the majority decides. Below is a quick, unofficial count of people's preferences for the buy-in ITT, please let me know if anyone has changed their mind or I got it wrong (also, please voice your opinion if you haven't):
Coff - Prefers $50, ok with $100 if consensus reached
nutshot2 - Prefers $100, fine with less
iamawesomer - Prefers $100, $50 is ok
bonsaltron - $25 was good ($50 ok?)
MDPokerAA - Prefers $100
Burdzthewurd - $25-$100 is good
Exitonly - Prefers $50, $100 is ok (possible co-owner with nutshot2?)
GeoffRas22 - possible co-owner with ray (who's ray?)
Karak - No preference, $50 or $100
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-Some sort of structured payout rewarding things other than just winning the postseason (assuming we do h2h instead of roto)/year. Maybe highest point totals each month? Stuff like that to keep interest even if you can't win.
Sounds good. Not sure if you'd want to limit it to overall team performance (points) or branch out into minor awards like best team ERA or something like that. Not in favor of a prize for having a CY winner on the team, etc., I'm not about to have the BBWA influence potential winnings, haha.
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-Minor league system. 25 man active roster and 40 man total roster It would work just like IRL. If the player is in the majors with no options left, they have to be on the 25 man roster. If they have options left and/or are a minor league player, they can be reserved on your 40 man roster either active or inactive. Basically each team will have 40 people on it. This isn't set in stone, and we can expand/contract it as we think it is needed.
I like the 40 man roster idea. I'm definitely in favor of some sort of "minors" system and I think this is a clean way to do it without having it get too complicated.
Do we need limits on how many prospects can be on the 40 man? Obviously, you'd need at least the basic roster to have MLB players in order to accumulate points, but say you sacrifice a bench spot to bank a hot prospect or potential call-up. Since he's in the minors, is it ok to have him take up a "traditional" bench spot, or is that too realistic? I'd lean towards a requirement to have X number of ML level position players and pitchers on the 25 man (filling out the minimal starting lineup and rotation spots, per league rules) and just let people do whatever with the rest of the roster spots.
Are we limited to only AAA players? For example, if I draft/buy Matt Wieters 2.0 while he's still only in AA with plans for using him one or two years later, is it legal to have him on my 40 man during that period he's in the low-mid minors (not commenting on the strategy, just if that would be allowed in theory)?
Personally, I enjoy H2H more over Roto. However, I'd be interested to hear from people who have done a keeper league as far as what the better format is. I know the strategies can differ between H2H and roto, but since I've never played in a keeper, it's difficult for me to figure how those different elements would play out. So no preference for me at the moment.
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-Everyone pays TWO years in advance. This means you'll have to pony up 100-200 dollars right now. You can sell your team for whatever you want (assuming a majority of the current league ownership approves the new owner).
-10 teams or 12 teams or more? I think 12 is a good round number.
Yes and 12 sounds fine. Definitely no more than 12 though.
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-Established league rules for not setting your best competitive lineup week in and week out. We could have fines/penalties for finishing in the bottom 2 spots of the league every year, for example.
Rules to keep things competitive are good, but I don't like the idea of fines for the basement teams. This is going to be a pretty tough league (I think) and it would suck to put in real effort and still get slapped with a fine just because your team fell short. Not sure what an alternate solution would be though.
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-Auction draft? Salary cap?
I've never done an auction before, but I think that sounds pretty cool. I think auction and salary cap would mesh well. I'm assuming the cap would coincide with how much you can spend at auction? We're just using "monopoly money" for the auction, right (noob questions)?
Also, for you savvy roto players, is there a preferred source for valuing players for auction?
I know the least about the auction and fantasy salary cap aspect, so hopefully we can flesh this out some more.
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-Charges for transactions? Or just a transaction cap?
Transaction cap, please. If so, weekly, monthly, or season cap?
On a related note, what are the rules going to be for off-season transactions?
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Originally Posted by Karak
-All trades must be publicly posted for 48 hours and open to counter-offers before they can go through.
Are we going to have a veto system for trades? I'm not sure if it's necessary or not. The last league I was in had publicly posted trades, a certain majority of owners needed to veto the trade, commish granted final approval and mediated any formal objections. Honestly, I don't think a single trade was proposed that didn't go through, so this may be a non-issue.
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Where are we going to run the league through? I know we'll draft on a 2p2 thread, but are we using Yahoo (fine with this) or what? Thoughts/suggestions?
What categories are we going to use? Last league I was in had
R, HR, SB, OBP, SLG - W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP. Wins vs. holds always seems to get mentioned. I've viewed wins as a necessary evil in the past, so I'm open to other options with the stats, for sure.
Type of rosters? I've seen some with the MI, CI, 4th OF setup in a roto league (wasn't a big fan), not sure what people's preferences are.
Last edited by Pecota; 12-31-2009 at 01:56 AM.
Reason: And if someone proposes batting average as a category.....yeah.