Yeah, it is for the startup. It is a ppr league with everything else pretty being pretty standard.

i think you need to look at how you're ranking the first five players and decide how much of a hit you get from dropping down from someone in your top two to someone in your top five. i'm scanning fbg's rankings and they've got odb/bell as a clearish 1/2, then a bit of a cluster**** from there on out with a huge bunch of wr's, lacy, luck and gronk

whoever wins the job behind that dallas line will automatically be productive, although i'm putting my chips on randle at least being the 1a to start the season, becoming the #1 when dmc inevitably does a hamstring etc

While I love FBG, there are better dynasty sources out there in my opinion. Dynasty league football seemed like the best source to me as that site is completely dedicated to dynasty leagues. I don't recommend going off of any rankings completely just using them as a guideline but from what I saw elsewhere in dynasty communities DLF was the most highly regarded.

FWIW its kind of unfortunate that 1.05 wants to trade because personally I would want to trade back even further because I think there is a top tier of guys you would be happy getting and the further you move back the more your gonna get in return.

I would be much more inclined to start my dynasty team with a young WR than a RB... even one like Leveon. The shelf life for RB's is just so much shorter than WR.

I think having tiers of guys is more important than rankings, so make yourself some tiers of guys and the further you can move back and still remain in a tier the better. This also helps you know when to move up for trades, its much easier to realize when there is one guy left in a tier you should move up and get him then when there is just a guy ranked higher than others left.

In my startup I moved up to grab Russel because I felt he was alone in the second tier (its a superflex league) and I later moved up to grab Jordy because he was the last guy left in his tier and multiple guys from the tier below him had gone already.

odb and bell are the 2 i like also. if odb happens to go #1, do you feel comfortable taking the rb at #2? i want to take a wr, but if bell is too good too pass on, ill take him.

yeah, i can certainly see that, but i'd think there's not going to be a huge amount of difference in rankings between sites

true. nothing stopping him shopping the 1.02, or even trading down again afterwards, although the 1.05 is obv not as an attractive sell

fair comment, and i can easily listen to arguments for taking a dez/julio/antonio/evans type early. but i don't think there's too many players that both have dynasty value and allow you to win now as well at the running back position, especially in a ppr league where bell has even more value over his rivals. go look at a top 10 list in ppr, they're all extremely old, have had an absurd amount of carries last season and will probably drop off a cliff, have had a dodgy injury history, or all of the above.

Well actually the top three over at DLF are Dez, Julio and AJG so there is definitely some variation, though in general I agree there isn't too much difference. But like I was saying, I feel tiers are much more important as I dont think anyone can accurately predict of the top 5-7 WR, who will land where but you can accurately put them all in the same tier and be happy getting any of them.

I certainly agree that Leveon is far and away the best dynasty running back, and a lot like gronk will offer you a big positional advantage for years to come. I don't think I could argue with taking Leveon early as he is definitely a part of that top tier for me. thats the nice part about making tiers is that while within a tier you get to go with who you like.

The only argument against is that Leveon is 23, most experts like to say that 29-30 is about the age RBs start to decline so you get about 6 years of leveon being "the guy" for you. Where as WR can last into their 30's and still be top 10 guys like Megatron or Jordy.

while we are discussing dynasty, which side do we like better?

mike evans/Deandre Hopkins or Sammy Watkins/#1 pick in the rookie draft (so gurley or cooper)

Evans/Hopkins and doesn't seem close.

I would also take the Evans/ Hopkins side by a decent margin... Could see arguments for the other side if your team was super stacked at WR and you wanted gurley maybe?

Just found this thread. Lol to dmc being a first rounder.

yea wr start 2rb/3wr/flex. his rbs are joseph randle and crowell lol. but his wrs are dez, cobb, evans, Hopkins, marshall and fitz

Reading over this thread has me questioning my move even more lol. He went ahead and drafted, taking Dez number 1. Is ODB the take here? Or do you take Bell (or maybe even brown)? No clue what I wanna do yet.

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Wouldn't take any non-WR at 1.01 in a dynasty start up. Or ODB. Brown/Dez probably fine. DT/Julio not far behind.

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Man the early round 1 rankings on just about every site have THE most WR's I've ever seen since learning the joys of FF, and Gronk is indeed looking like a snap 1st rounder (not on my team anyway). I think you'll be able to get solid RB's rounds 3-4-5 just based on the crazy volume of receivers going so early.

well you gotta look at whose posting silly things about DMC lol. but anyway I personally would be going receiver... that being said I think I would be going Julio not ODB but thats personal preference. ODB missing 4 games last year with a hammy injury and already having seemingly serious issues with his hammies again in mini camp does not make me feel great about him.

Honestly think Ill be fading ODB in ever league this year which won't be a popular opinion but hey. I recognize his ability to be the #1 WR this year for sure, but between his injuries and only 12 games under his belt I will go another direction. I tend to be risk averse with my early picks and I think ODB is still a risk.

If you really believe in ODB then take him... at that point in the draft there is an argument for about 8 guys at that spot (off the top of my head ODB, Julio, Antonio, AJG, Leveon, Gronk, Evans, Luck) depending if you have a positional preference. So just go with who you like

That you question ODB's health in favor of another wideout is totally fine, and no savvy FF fan would argue with you there (I think). That JULIO is the guy you feel is safer is...questionable. Julio is the poster boy for hurt receivers. With him you can't even use games played, because the Falcons have trotted him out there hurt way too often. I'd love to see the number of games the guy has played effectively and been dominant. Eyeballing I doubt it's more than 70%. That strikes me as a bit low for the wideout you're going to invest this much in.

I think you could make a case that ball-magnet Antonio Brown (also 26 if my memory serves) is probably safer than Julio in PPR if these are the kinds of names we're tossing around. Three 16 game seasons in the last 4, 3 thousand yard seasons in the last 4, seems to still be getting better even. Anyway food for thought in terms of risk management in a dynasty format. For the record I still go ODB over Brown, but I go Brown over Julio myself.

I'd personally take brown just because he's more proven than odb and if I'm building a dynasty team I look at reliability, but it's not like either are a poor option

You're in a good position at 2 if you can trade down to somewhere between 5-7 and get a pick in the 4/5th rds imo

Oh ya at #2 I'm trading down as often as possible

Your points are completely reasonable rafiki.

In terms of injuries Julio is just as bad if not worse then ODB though this could prove to be different, but for the sake of argument I view the two of them about the same in the injury category.

With that out of the way, like I said I am more risk averse with my early picks and Julio has proven he isn't a flash in the pan (For the record I dont think ODB is either, but its possible) and in a Kyle Shannahan O I think he will flourish.

I didn't realize antonio was still so young so, I would probably be taking him.

They both fell to me, so I traded down to 4 and got Brown. Very happy with the pick as that is who I was going to draft between the 2. The top 3 were Dez, Julio, ODB.

so you traded down, gained something, and got brown?

Yep seems pretty Ideal for you, what did you manage to get back?

I was happy with it. I would have been happy with either ODB or Brown falling, especially Brown. I didn't get a lot. I moved up a few picks in the 4th, 5th,6th rounds.

Ended up getting Jamal Charles in the 2nd, and I am about to pick again. Trying to decide between Graham/Benjamin/Murray/Shady/Forte/Keenan/White.

There's a pretty big gap between the front of that list, and the back