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07-08-2016 , 06:35 AM
I'm looking to get some impartial advice (Mods please move if this is not the appropriate forum).

I ran a prediction competition for the Euros (people predicted the results of matches and progress of teams for points) and it's extremely tight at the top. There are a number of players who currently are on top of the leaderboard who all have France to win the tournament. Only 4 points separate them currently.

As part of the competition I also award points to people who have named the correct top scorer. This is the relevant wording from the rules:

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Top Scorer: Player comes first (6), Player comes second (4), Player comes third (3)

So the dilemma is that currently there are 6 footballers in joint 2nd place. So if there are no further goals scored by these players in the final then how many points should I award to people who predicted that say Ronaldo or Giroud would finish top scorer.

The way I see it there are 2 options:

Option 1: 4 pts
They came 2nd. The rules say 2nd gets 4 points.
The argument against this is that somebody who chose Greizmann as top scorer unfairly could have 6 different people competing against him getting receiving the 4 points who had all chosen different footballers. Should there be a premium for finishing a clear 1st?
In golf if two people finish joint second they don't give them both 2nd place money-they split 2nd + 3rd place prize money between them


Option 1: 1 pt
Since there are 6 footballers on joint 2nd they split the total remaining points between them. 2nd gets 4 points and third gets 3 points. So that's 7 points divided by 6 which comes to 1 when you round down. The downside to this is that it seems like a massive jump from 1st to 2nd in terms of points. Also is the golf prize money analagous here? Prize money is finite but theoretically I can dispense as many points as I want.


The decision here will literally mean the difference between different people receiving different prize money (or none at all)
I want to make the decision today and tell the interested parties so that everyone knows the story before Sunday's Final.
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07-08-2016 , 07:40 AM
Just go with the Uefa ruling. That way nobody can claim you tried to favor any team.

Tiebreakers for top scorer is assists, then minutes played.
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07-10-2016 , 05:53 PM
Tied for 2nd share 2nd + 3rd+ 4th etc.. until you run out points to dole out.

Sounds to me like if 4 people share 2nd, they get 7 (4 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd) pts/4 (number who finished 2nd) each.

I wouldn't redefine what scoring means if it wasn't spelled out before the tournament started.
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07-11-2016 , 09:45 AM
if the only relevant rules text is what you quoted then Id feel cheated if my guy tied for second and I didnt get 4 points. a tie for second means they came in second, which means 4 points.

obviously you should have specified something similar to golf payouts, but you didnt.
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