Online poker all over again.

https://dfsreport.com/6840/fanduel-draftkings-mishaps/

The most interesting tidbit is that the major winners at each big site are execs/employees of the other competitor site which should tell you they are taking info they learn from their site and using it to rake it money at their competitor site.

I certainly would never play again knowing this because, at best, I have to think I am chopping with some employee that saw all the picks and created a card most likely to win.

http://www.legalsportsreport.com/454...data-leak-faq/

*That DraftKings employee was very "lucky" to recently win $350K playing on FanDuel, wasn't he? Most don't think it was luck:

"One industry insider who wished to remain anonymous told LSR that “a significant number of the whales at the top DFS sites are employees – often executives – of other sites.”

sick of all the commercials anyways, dave gomes' big check can lick my balls

This thread is sensationalism at its worst. There is nothing clear cut in that article and there is zero proof of cheating. This quote is from the top comment on the article:

There are certainly legitimate questions that should be answered, but threads like this are not going to help anyone or anything.

Sounds like DFS execs are no less stupid/corrupt/greedy than FullTilt execs during that boom.

Read the link I posted.

When Execs/employees of one site are the biggest winners at the competitor site you can be certain it is not a coincidence and that they are using what they learn on the job to fill out winning line-up cards on opposing sites (because they are prohibited from playing on their own site).

The general public won't even hear about this, dfs has only just begun. To say the end is near is just laughable.

That link you posted is bad. Please repost and test.

Allen, like I said on your Facebook wall, all the information is public on FanDuel on Thursday contests.

Mods, this needs a title change: "DraftKings employee releases site info about pregame lineups."

FanDuel and DraftKings have released statements about this incident this morning:

DK http://playbook.draftkings.com/uncat...atement-10515/

FD: https://newsroom.fanduel.com/2015/10...our-employees/

It might help the 98% of people who lose on DFS. I am assuming you never took a Business Ethics course in college.

With the amount of attention they are bringing to themselves with their ridiculous advertising, it's only a matter of time before it falls just like online poker. And I actually play DFS.

Dumpster fire in 3...2...1

Both FanDuel and DraftKings have deals with all the major sports. The leagues protect their brands above all else. This could be a real **** storm. From legal sports report:Anecdotally, the amount of cross-site play by operator employees is substantial.

Insider trading. Past posting. Whatever it is, it doesn't sound good. Even if it's just perception, the fact that an employee from a competing site won $350k, that can't be good for business. He may have set his line up honestly, but people will think DFS is shady. It might not stop the degenerates from playing but it might get the regulators to drop the axe. Black Friday 2.0.

SELECT lineup FROM users WHERE week = 4 ORDER BY twelve_month_profit DESC LIMIT 10;

Copy and paste avg output to other book I'm not employed at. Ez game.

i checked my database of results and the guy also won a 100k mlb tournament, 4 of the big grand slams (> 10k for first), and 19 of the smaller grant slams (>5k <10k) this past season

and is a big outlier from everyone else in terms of ROI

of course maybe he's just good at dfs

I hope government regulation doesn't come to pass, because that will just likely ruin it for sure. But the sites need to self-regulate and bend over backwards to ensure the games are fair. Just hearing stats like 98% of players are losing is a very bad sign IMO. Players will be chumps for a while, but we're not all lottery players. We won't be chumps forever.

I dont really see what the issue is. This is like getting mad at a McDonalds employee for spending his hard earned money in Burger King. Ok maybe not but you get the point.

That would actually support his contention he is the only person who can access the percent owned information, while also providing circumstantial evidence he was using the information to profit on Fanduel.

I see this analogy being posted a lot and it's terrible. It's more like being the head of the NYSE and being able to see Warren Buffet's (and the rest of the market's) orderbook before they are executed and then front running orders on the Merc and acting like stock prices on Merc and NYSE are not correlated.

Has anyone looked at all of his lineups from that day? WR Allen Hurns was 2% owned on both sites. If a ton of his lineups had this guy, its pretty obvious he was using the info IMO.

Also it is probably a good idea to have some sort of governing body for DFS, hopefully like an Internet Skill/Gambling regulatory group. Then maybe we could sneak online poker in there too.

Yeah. Its not a failsafe edge, but its an edge. Like knowing your outs in poker. You understand in theory how many outs you have, but if you could flip over all the cards in the muck, you could see how many outs you really have. And that would be quite helpful when deciding whether to call.

1) Glance at G123s lineup
2) Make an arbitrary tweak or two
3) Steal equity from G123

I don't see the problem either.

I love that the statements are nearly word for word identical to one another.

You are bad at analogies.

People being able to view players lineups/ownership% is a serious problem.

DFS would be an easy game if you could find the biggest winners in every sport and use their lineups for yourself.

The more I think about how likely that this is happening, the more distrust I have for these companies.

It was a joint statement.

http://www.legalsportsreport.com/454...data-leak-faq/