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In fairness he is getting destroyed, and if what he says is true about his script being approved he's not breaking any rules. The problem, once again, is more about perception than blatant cheating. No one in that thread seems to know the rules, I play every day and read industry news every day and I don't know the rules, apparently. Meanwhile this guy, who's part of a big syndicate, gets his secret permission to auto bum hunt all the way down to the $1's as he sleeps. I wonder why rec players don't think that's fair. Maybe they could take action before the NYT deals another black eye.

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10-09-2015 , 07:35 PM

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I don't think the "entering games instantly via script" is against FD policy, but the automated selectively entering H2Hs only against certain people might be. Of course now someone in the RG thread is suggesting writing to the Attorney General about pros taking H2Hs ... brilliant idea right

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10-09-2015 , 07:41 PM

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leaked video of Ethan cheating at the 40 yard dash at a DK event

https://youtu.be/wLDOqyM1p2Q?t=107

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10-09-2015 , 07:44 PM

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Some NYT editor is probably right now researching to see if "bumhunting" is one word or two.

But seriously this cannot be good. I suppose there's some chance this could die quietly, but the mass media loves to look for "more to the story" and this plays right into their hands as a followup to the Ethan thing.

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10-09-2015 , 07:48 PM

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if kcannon is seriously autosniping $1 h2h vs noobs then hes an absolute assclown. even if fd told him it was ok.

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10-09-2015 , 07:53 PM

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someone in the MLB thread does that except he just sits there all day refreshing and then taunts people about it on twitter

then PMs you asking you to stop when you do it to them

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10-09-2015 , 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Priptonite

Thoughts on a subscription-based, rake-free DFS site? Could have tiered subscriptions based on volume. $10/month for 100 or less contests, $20 for 500 contests, etc. At this point I think the market is saturated and idk if any new site could compete, but I've been wondering why no site has tried this approach.

They have a shipload of overhead and want to make money. I would settle for a site that wants to compete and deviate from the standard 10% on cash games...etc. Does any site do this?

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10-09-2015 , 08:22 PM

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Lawnmower Man

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When this is all over, it's going to be one of those HBR case studies about how to do every single thing wrong.

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10-09-2015 , 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgojackets

the way he instantly tries to paint himself as the victim makes me think this guy is a massive chode

He is one of the worst DFS players that people look up to or respect. It has been well documented he shares lineups with CSU and Birdwings and they all use em in hu 50/50 and even single entries.

I get all the hate and bad stuff rg is bringing up and believe me I hate rg but people have been bringing this up forever and sites have written. It off to protect their .01% rake payers

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10-09-2015 , 11:05 PM

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Waiting for the next shoe to drop.....Mafia ownership! What else could be brought to light? Stealing credit card numbers? Constant phone calls like sports betting service touts? Worse commercials, if this possible? More lame responses from frat clown bro executives?
Both FD and DK have to be disassembled, from top down. Who would ever deposit another dollar on these inside schemes?

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10-09-2015 , 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 34TheTruth34

if kcannon is seriously autosniping $1 h2h vs noobs then hes an absolute assclown. even if fd told him it was ok.

this

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10-10-2015 , 12:31 AM

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You nailed it on the head. If it smells like a rat, looks like a rat and it is a rat.
What more do we need before we call their platform's shady or as we say it here dodgy as f**k ?

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10-10-2015 , 07:43 AM

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I think if you're worried about FD/DK (and that might be justified), moving to CBS, Yahoo, Stars, etc. might be wise.

I know their sites are all broken in various ways, volume is nowhere close, but they're far more likely to not be frat guys and their assorted friends just raiding every last dollar as fast as they can endlessly. Which I acknowledge on the surface appears to be the DK/FD model. Reputable companies like Yahoo and CBS are going to probably respond better in the long run, and frankly I trust Stars on the whole.

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10-10-2015 , 04:43 PM

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Stars pulling out of Fla:

Chris Grove ‏@OPReport 10m10 minutes ago
I have independent confirmation that federal grand jury convening in Florida to consider charges against DFS operators. No official word yet

https://rotogrinders.com/threads/sta...sidents-882947

Well, that escalated quickly.

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10-10-2015 , 04:59 PM

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more detail here

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...asy-operators/

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10-10-2015 , 05:12 PM

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Its not like these DFS sites just suddenly sprung up. They've been going for a while. Where was the US Attorney's office when the whole premise was being brought up? I don't want to think this challenge will work, but again, where was it four or five years ago? Now that companies and investors and bettors have invested a shipload of money into it some jackass comes out of his coma and says "yo, this stuff ain't legal".

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10-10-2015 , 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chippa58

they didnt know about DFS or it was too trivial for them to care

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10-10-2015 , 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Biesterfield

they didnt know about DFS or it was too trivial for them to care

I guess my point is that somebody or actually many folks in government green-lighted this. It would be nice if one hand went along with what the other hand was doing.

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10-10-2015 , 06:33 PM

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In the FD CFB tournament there is a 9 way tie for first. 9 different people, same exact team.

Most of them have very low # of wins in every sport.

Seems suspicious. Maybe a sites line up tool just predicted correctly?

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10-10-2015 , 06:43 PM

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It's not like it's some kind of supercartel or something..

but seriously how is it suspicious? Lineup selling and sharing are prevalent and not against any rules.

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10-10-2015 , 06:45 PM

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It's another black eye for the industry!!! I'm worried every day that I'm going to wake up to the news that Obama shut it down because of too many black eyes

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10-10-2015 , 06:48 PM

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SpursDynasty

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It actually seems like the average Joe wouldn't mind for these sites to go down... I am just guessing, but many are sick of the ads, losing money, the secrecy of pro's playing and site management as well.

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10-10-2015 , 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Losing all

more detail here

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...asy-operators/

hopefully you guys are reading the comments section of this article. here is my current fav:

I don’t agree that DFS is a skill contest. I’m very good at re-draft fantasy football (at least in my circle of friends & players), consistently ranking in the top 3 most seasons. I’m usually the “guy to beat” in my leagues.

I gotta say it: I suck at DFS. You can throw your FF “skills” out the window. DFS is about randomly picking those one or two players that blow up any given week unexpectedly. It’s like betting on a weak horse or dog and hoping they win. It’s more about betting on long shots than anything. That’s gambling, not skill.

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10-10-2015 , 06:53 PM

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The DFS are a stupid trend that invoke pure luck in picking total long shots with perhaps one or two obvious picks. And who knows the people against whom you’re playing? Could be the employees themselves who may not be paid, but do take up the money spots. It’s a waste of money and I would advise any and all to avoid the scam.

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10-10-2015 , 06:55 PM

#675

34TheTruth34

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I’m glad I haven’t heard anything about starsdraft since i have been using it. I would only use draftkings or fanduel if i could get in on that insider trading.

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