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Just catching up on the states where DFS is illegal, guess I dodged a bullet by being in Tennessee where they ignored the AG's advice and allowed DFS.

So even with losing players from the banned states, could the overall payer pool be the same or even a little larger than 2015 due to a bigger % of people playing overall?

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08-12-2016 , 11:11 AM

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wesrwood

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Looks like draftkings and fanduel are cutting off collusion and also 3rd parties selling lineups

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08-12-2016 , 11:16 AM

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How can they cut off third party lineup selling? Very curious to see how that's enforced.

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Looks like draftkings and fanduel are cutting off collusion and also 3rd parties selling lineups

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08-12-2016 , 11:20 AM

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wesrwood

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Ban people who buy lineups? It's not hard to figure out

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08-12-2016 , 11:22 AM

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How are they going to differentiate between people who organically come up with the same lineup combinations as the ones that are sold?

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Ban people who buy lineups? It's not hard to figure out

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08-12-2016 , 11:26 AM

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I'm sure when 20 people "organically" come up with the same lineup they will know

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08-12-2016 , 02:28 PM

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So if I sell the optimal Rotogrinders, FantasyLabs, FantasyCruncher, RotoQL, etc. lineups, does that mean no one is allowed to use any of them?

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08-12-2016 , 02:39 PM

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Sounds like it. Selling optimizer software is fine, as per the Rotogrinders Daily Fantasy Fix pod today with TheSiege. But selling optimized lineups, no.

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So if I sell the optimal Rotogrinders, FantasyLabs, FantasyCruncher, RotoQL, etc. lineups, does that mean no one is allowed to use any of them?

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08-12-2016 , 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Swag *Official*

How are they going to differentiate between people who organically come up with the same lineup combinations as the ones that are sold?

Every day? Are you for ****ing real bro

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08-12-2016 , 02:56 PM

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warped

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i don't think matching one individual lineup will get you banned. I'm sure they'll keep track of these lineups as they go. it's more when the same 20 people show up with the same exact lineup multiple weeks in a row that it'll be beyond obv.

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08-12-2016 , 03:06 PM

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Banning this is definitely bad for my bottom line. Every sold lineup is just a dumpster fire. If it wasn't they wouldn't sell it

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08-12-2016 , 03:07 PM

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Banning this is definitely bad for my bottom line. Every sold lineup is just a dumpster fire. If it wasn't they wouldn't sell it

But it clearly makes sense and is best for the recreational player for sure. Some of these "rules" seem pretty hard to enforce tho

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08-12-2016 , 03:14 PM

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wesrwood

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Banning this is definitely bad for my bottom line. Every sold lineup is just a dumpster fire. If it wasn't they wouldn't sell it

This is them saying they don't care about your bottom line or maxdalaurys etc Etc . Maximum lineups are gonna come down a lot in the future I bet too

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08-12-2016 , 03:21 PM

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This is them saying they don't care about your bottom line or maxdalaurys etc Etc . Maximum lineups are gonna come down a lot in the future I bet too

Yea I clearly addressed this in my post 30 seconds later

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08-12-2016 , 03:24 PM

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Yea I clearly addressed this in my post 30 seconds later

Surprised they didn't do this sooner.

Serious question when you if you guys wins a gpp how much profit are you making? Sure you are in for heaps of lineups

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08-12-2016 , 03:59 PM

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I've never understood buying a lineup, especially not for gpp's.

Curious how much this is being done? From the amount of DFS lineup Twitter accounts following me, seems like a lot.

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08-24-2016 , 11:37 AM

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A bit over the top on the headline, but DFS is featured in OTL today:

The implosion of the daily fantasy industry is a bro-classic tale of hubris, recklessness, political naïveté and a kill-or-be-killed culture.

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08-24-2016 , 03:05 PM

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They really sought out some unbiased experts, like "high volume" hobo gimmick, Gabey. Just top experts in the field.

60 Minutes they ain't.

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08-24-2016 , 07:03 PM

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This didnt take long: Sorry ESPN, But DraftKings and FanDuel Didn't Implode

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08-24-2016 , 07:22 PM

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This is really odd timing by ESPN on this story.

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08-24-2016 , 09:06 PM

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I just finished reading it. Epic article from an outsider's perspective.

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08-30-2016 , 01:27 AM

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So is Fanduel going to address the massive collusion problem or just ride it out to their death in the form of another NYT/ESPN article?

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08-30-2016 , 01:29 AM

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So is Fanduel going to address the massive collusion problem or just ride it out to their death in the form of another NYT/ESPN article?

I don't play much on fanduel. But curious what the massive collusion problem is

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