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03-12-2017 , 12:02 PM
Good pick, I want him in all leagues.
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03-12-2017 , 12:16 PM
I'd have taken him if my other OFs weren't Marte and Eaton.
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03-12-2017 , 12:26 PM
It's very interesting this year with all these late round guys and with what happened with SBs last season.

You've got those guys like Broxton and Pereza who you can grab much later who in theory could have similar seasons to some of the guys going at the top like marte/turner/Villar. I keep going back and forth on who I want to target and where cause it seems like you can grab your steals especially for roto leagues late.

The more I think about it the more I'm starting to realize martes value is incredibly high cause you're essentially paying for the 300 avg vs a 250-260 with some of the later picks
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03-12-2017 , 12:42 PM
Broxton hype seems overblown to me - where is it coming from?

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How many players have a shot at 40sb and 15hr? Not many, and they are all being drafted in the first two rounds. Granted he will not provide batting average like those guys, but in my opinion the counting stats more than make up for that.
Eduardo Nunez did that last year and I picked him up a few picks earlier, and he has posted a 0.280 BA over his past 2 seasons so there isn't a big red flag about his AVG like their is Broxton, who posted 30%+ K% at all levels of the minors (which was still there in his last 40 game streak of the season). Looking at Broxton on fangraphs, here are some second half numbers that raise red flags to me:

- Sample size (45G, 143AB)

- Hard Hit % (50.6%, up from 22.6% first half)
Hitters who posted a hard hit% > 50.0% last year: [None. Mike Trout was at 41%. Ortiz 46%].

Without looking any deeper than that I think it's pretty clear if he still has a K% of over 30 and his hard hit % is nearly 10 percentage points higher than Mike Trout and 5% higher than David Ortiz, his 2nd half 0.300 AVG isn't sustainable.

I like Broxton a lot more in OBP leagues obviously, where his BB% rate can make up for his poor AVG, but you are banking a lot on a small sample size that pitchers probably just didn't have time to adjust to whatever adjustment he made.

In an auction calculator I still show him as being valuable at around picks 140-180 even with a 0.240-0.250 average, so I don't think it's a bad pick here - but the hype of a 0.300 AVG being repeated is way overblown, I think a 0.200 AVG is far more likely

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03-12-2017 , 12:50 PM
SP Matt Harvey

Wanted matz...so I'll go with another Mets risk
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03-12-2017 , 12:57 PM
I like Broxton in this round or later. I'm afraid though his hype train is going to crank up his adp to the point where he is not going to be worth it.

If that happens he will be a good trade target if he starts off slow because pitchers have adjusted to his new approach from the second half of last year.
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03-12-2017 , 01:05 PM
13.10 Michael Fulmer SP

I see Fulmer improving everywhere but his ERA this year, and think this a pretty good spot to pick him up.
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03-12-2017 , 01:09 PM
Broxton hype super overblown IMO

I understand his appeal, and his SB + HR is sexy but he's a terrible hitter (at least for now) who has no business at all being atop a lineup
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03-12-2017 , 01:13 PM
He's going to have a k rate between 35 and 40% this year and if his babip isn't something outrageous his OBP is gonna be horseshit which obviously hurts his counting stats and his average will be barely better than .200 which hurts the likelihood he stays away from the bottom of the order
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03-12-2017 , 01:15 PM
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Broxton hype seems overblown to me - where is it coming from?



Eduardo Nunez did that last year and I picked him up a few picks earlier, and he has posted a 0.280 BA over his past 2 seasons so there isn't a big red flag about his AVG like their is Broxton, who posted 30%+ K% at all levels of the minors (which was still there in his last 40 game streak of the season). Looking at Broxton on fangraphs, here are some second half numbers that raise red flags to me:

- Sample size (45G, 143AB)

- Hard Hit % (50.6%, up from 22.6% first half)
Hitters who posted a hard hit% > 50.0% last year: [None. Mike Trout was at 41%. Ortiz 46%].

Without looking any deeper than that I think it's pretty clear if he still has a K% of over 30 and his hard hit % is nearly 10 percentage points higher than Mike Trout and 5% higher than David Ortiz, his 2nd half 0.300 AVG isn't sustainable.

I like Broxton a lot more in OBP leagues obviously, where his BB% rate can make up for his poor AVG, but you are banking a lot on a small sample size that pitchers probably just didn't have time to adjust to whatever adjustment he made.

In an auction calculator I still show him as being valuable at around picks 140-180 even with a 0.240-0.250 average, so I don't think it's a bad pick here - but the hype of a 0.300 AVG being repeated is way overblown, I think a 0.200 AVG is far more likely
Don't know who you think is suggesting a .300 BA is possible. Fangraphs projects him for around .220.

To me, Broxton's presumed value is in 15/40, the fact he had one of the highest exit velocities in mlb in the second half, his having a starting job and in the fact the Brewer clearly want their guys running as much as possible. the sample you mentioned suggests a much higher ceiling than guys being picked around here typically have, but I doubt anyone considers that a 50th percentile outcome or anything.
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03-12-2017 , 02:00 PM
of, max kepler
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03-12-2017 , 02:07 PM
jim you have 5 OF right now when there's 3 slots, set which ones will be your utils, and I'm not sure what ur doin with Ramirez, or I'd try to do it myself.
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03-12-2017 , 02:13 PM
of is cargo/jones/ramirez, util is hosmer/ozuna, kepler is bench.
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03-12-2017 , 02:13 PM
SRM and phils have bench players as well per my tracking

SRM:
1B - Myers
2B - Cano
SS - Villar
3B - Bregman
OF - McCutchen
UT - Rendon
UT - Bird

Morales -- bench?

PHILS
C- Contreras
SS - Correa
3B - Lamb
OF - Harper
OF - JDMart
OF - Desmond
UT - Bautista
UT - Segura

Broxton -- bench?


NVM
for Phils I see Segura can be slotted at 2B. Broxton is his 2nd UTIL
SRM can slot Myers in at OF

Last edited by beansroast01; 03-12-2017 at 02:21 PM.
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03-12-2017 , 02:22 PM
Wreck had 4 OF i changed Pence to a UT. Are we not going to show a designation for Bench players?
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03-12-2017 , 02:22 PM
K Kiermaier
N Mazara

Hope both are available
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03-12-2017 , 02:26 PM
Is it bad to draft Desmond as a 1b? Yahoo eligibility is 5 games iirc. Right now he is in my OF and 1B is empty.
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03-12-2017 , 02:28 PM
Wait a minute... Trea Turner isn't an SS on Yahoo, this mock is rigged i tell ya! RIGGED!
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03-12-2017 , 02:30 PM
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Is it bad to draft Desmond as a 1b? Yahoo eligibility is 5 games iirc. Right now he is in my OF and 1B is empty.
He doesn't have 1B eligibility right now afaik. But i see what you mean - you can slot him in there once he gets eligibility (i guess that's what alekhine is doing with his Trea Turner pick as well). I haven't given much thought to players that will gain eligibility shortly after the season starts - def. something i need to look into
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03-12-2017 , 02:36 PM
Love Kiermaier this year. Played a good portion of last year hurt and should take steps forward in every spot if he can stay healthy.
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03-12-2017 , 02:40 PM
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Wait a minute... Trea Turner isn't an SS on Yahoo, this mock is rigged i tell ya! RIGGED!
Oh oops. I was just going off the color grid. Well you'll just have to pretend he is heh
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03-12-2017 , 03:17 PM
RP AJ Ramos
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03-12-2017 , 05:47 PM
14.3 Javier Baez 2B

Probably a little early with the playing time issues he'll have, but his positional flexibility and 20/10 possibility fit what I'm looking for out of the 2b slot.
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03-12-2017 , 07:40 PM
RP Francisco Rodriguez

Decent closet on a decent team
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03-12-2017 , 08:56 PM
14.5 Victor Martinez

He is 1B eligible on Yahoo and I really need a first basemen now that Desmond is hurt. I know he is 38 now but I think he can still be very productive when healthy. I was actually surprised to see he has played 150+ games in 3 of the last 4 seasons.

C Contreras
1B V Martinez
2B Segura
3B Lamb
SS Correa
OF Harper
OF JD Martinez
OF Bautista
Util Broxton
Util Desmond

SP Lester
SP Duffy
RP Giles
RP
P Paxton
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