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THIS OR THAT - PPR, 6 PT TDS ROOKIES ONLY, REDRAFT LEAGUES

fournette or mccaffrey? Obv

hunt or perine? Not sure Perine is even gonna be the backup.

jamaal williams or burkhead? Burkhead isn't a rookie...

d'angelo henderson or jonathan williams? Also not a rookie. Clearer path to relevance.

zay jones or kenny golladay? Tyrod has looked terrible and seems set up to fail in this offense.

cooper kupp or john ross? Speed kills...as does Goff.

**bonus**: rookie qb if you had to start them this year. Kizer I guess due to running ability.

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08-22-2017 , 02:22 PM

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Anyone care to make a friendly wager on Fournette vs McCaffrey? Ill take McCaffrey, in PPR.

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08-22-2017 , 03:49 PM

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6 Point QB TD scoring otherwise standard non PPR. Only 1 keeper per position

Keeper Options:

1) Ezekial--seems like a gimme I have Hyde/Ware
2) Michael Thomas/Dez Bryant/Brady/Luck/Kelce

Seems like everywhere I'm seeing Thomas is the pick but just checking with the experts. Thanks in advance.

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08-22-2017 , 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheatsauce

damn i didn't realize they weren't rookies, i just assumed

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08-22-2017 , 04:02 PM

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Dez Bryant or Michael Thomas? TD machine and no other competition. Cowboys will be playing behind a lot this season. Too many targets for Saints.

What leads you to believe that the Cowboys will be playing from behind a lot this season?

Thomas got 121 targets last year with Brandin Cooks on the field... really don't see why there is any concern over his target share.

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08-22-2017 , 04:21 PM

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Not sure Thomas is all that good......he's in a great spot though so his situation should mask some of that......

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08-22-2017 , 04:40 PM

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THIS OR THAT - PPR, 6 PT TDS ROOKIES ONLY, REDRAFT LEAGUES

fournette or mccaffrey? Fournette is injured already. Won't be the last time. I mean I guess it depends. Expect him to do slightly better on a per game basis when healthy, so it depends on what replacement level is, whether you need him to start, etc.

hunt or perine?

jamaal williams or burkhead?

d'angelo henderson or jonathan williams? Last year for the Bills Shady ran for 5.4 ypc. Gillislee ran for 5.7 ypc. & JWill ran for 3.5 ypc. Dude sucks.

zay jones or kenny golladay? Could lead lol Bills in targets. Much more solid option for PPR.

cooper kupp or john ross? Better player, better QB.

**bonus**: rookie qb if you had to start them this year.

Rookie QB to start is kind of a complicated question because who knows how much any of them are actually going to play. If all 4 were going to play all 16 games I'd probably go:

Mahomes
Watson
Trubisky
Kizer

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08-22-2017 , 04:42 PM

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& yeah, Cooks was targetted 117 times last season. They replaced him with...Ted Ginn? There aren't going to be less targets available for Thomas this year, although there might be tougher defense...

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08-22-2017 , 05:12 PM

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For (2) it's either Thomas or Dez. (Thomas gets my vote). Don't even consider Brady/Luck/Kelce.

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08-22-2017 , 07:57 PM

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& yeah, Cooks was targetted 117 times last season. They replaced him with...Ted Ginn? There aren't going to be less targets available for Thomas this year, although there might be tougher defense...

Ted Ginn is going to outperform his ADP in that Cooks role. Thomas is going to see a lot more double teams and not a lot more targets. Brees spreads it aroind to much....i see regression. Then Brees likely gone next year......

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08-22-2017 , 08:35 PM

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how you guys ranking these in ppr:

Garcon, Snead, Decker, DJax, Meredith

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08-22-2017 , 10:15 PM

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i assumed cooks' share would go amongst coleman/snead. why are we thinking ginn is getting a bigger role?

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08-22-2017 , 10:23 PM

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Prob because he wasn't on the team last year

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08-22-2017 , 11:19 PM

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i assumed cooks' share would go amongst coleman/snead. why are we thinking ginn is getting a bigger role?

Ginn is playing the cooks position. Snead is going to play the slot. Snead's not a blow the top off the defense type WR and Coleman is nothing so im not sure why you would think they are getting all those deep targets. Ginn is going to have some terrible drops but you just have to live with that. I imagine he's going to have some monster games when he gets open deep a few times in one game. He was a great pick up for NO.

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08-22-2017 , 11:40 PM

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Hasn't there been really good reports about Thomas coming out of camp?

With the 11th pick, I'm looking at a possible scenario of choosing between Gordon, freeman, Thomas, Murray, etc...

In ppr I may just punt it and go Thomas, although but crazy about the idea but I don't have it in me to root for freeman if he's on my team.

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08-23-2017 , 06:54 AM

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Thomas isn't going to bust because he's going to get 120 targets from an elite QB at least. He's just going to get the opposing teams #1 CB more, plus be doubled more, and even with Cooks gone he's not going to see a huge increase in targets. I'd have to look back but i kind of remember a stat where Brees never gave a wr more than some many targets ever. He really spreads the ball around.

What is Ted Ginn worth if he gets 100+ targets from an elite QB. He had 97 and 95 that last couple years from a notoriously inaccurate QB.........

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08-23-2017 , 07:51 AM

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I could use your logic Wolves, and just say "Ginn is not very good"

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08-23-2017 , 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Priptonite

They have the hardest schedule in the league this year, their defense has regressed this year, and they don't have their star running back for 6 games.
Nothing else besides that though!

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08-23-2017 , 09:20 AM

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Ginn is an absolute steal for his ADP right now. I don't know many other players you could get 90+ touches/6TD with as your 5th WR.

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08-23-2017 , 09:22 AM

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I could use your logic Wolves, and just say "Ginn is not very good"

Meh ADP suggests that you're buying Thomas at his ceiling price and Ginn at his floor price......i'll pass on Thomas and buy Ginn 10 rounds later......

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08-23-2017 , 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rafiki

how you guys ranking these in ppr:

Garcon, Snead, Decker, DJax, Meredith

Meredith
Garcon
Snead
Jackson
Decker

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08-23-2017 , 09:55 AM

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10 team, non-PPR, 2r/2w/2flex

Which 3 do we keep (bolded the one's I think)?

godgers w/ the 14th pick
kelce w/ the 54th
diggs w/ the 67th
woodhead w/ the 87th
britt w/ the 154th

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08-23-2017 , 10:09 AM

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I'd go Rodgers, Kelce, and Diggs.

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08-23-2017 , 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey

10 team, non-PPR, 2r/2w/2flex

Which 3 do we keep (bolded the one's I think)?

godgers w/ the 14th pick
kelce w/ the 54th
diggs w/ the 67th
woodhead w/ the 87th
britt w/ the 154th

I meant to add that all TDs are worth 6 so that helps Rodgers value a bit and interceptions are -2 which helps him a lot.

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08-23-2017 , 01:10 PM

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I am in a 10 team .5PPR ESPN keeper league, 4 pts for passing TD's, don't give up anything for keepers.

Pick 3 keepers:

Devonta Freeman
Gronk
Brady
Allen Robinson
Mark Ingram
Marshawn Lynch
Jarvis Landry

First 3 seem like the obvious choices, but I kind of hate keeping a QB, and Brady is old. Would anyone prefer to keep Ingram or Lynch or someone else?

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