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03-15-2017 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cs3
How the **** does Alex Bregman have MI eligibility on Yahoo?
For that matter how does anyone get MI without having either SS or 2B??
This is a lot more egregious than the Schwarber C thing imo.
Batters need 5 Games Started at that position to be eligible, since Bregman started 4 at SS and 1 at 2B, I guess that's why
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03-15-2017 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHalpert
Had my first of three real money drafts.

It's a standard 5x5 roto, 1400 innings, 12 teams, two utility players, 3 OF, and no ci/mi.



I waked away with this team:

C: Schwarber
1b: Adrian Gonzalez
2b: Cano
ss: Lindor
3b: Bryant
OF: McCutchen
OF: Morales
OF: Sano
UTIL: Victor Martinez
UTIL: Kole Calhoun


SP: Bum
SP: Carrasco
RP: Oh
RP: Herrera
P: K Rod
P: Rodney
P: Manaea
R: Odorizzi



Bench: Byron Buxton
Bench: Heyward
Bench: Bird
Bench: Inciarte
Bench: Profar
Bench: Dyson




How do we like it? It's my cheapest league, so learning roster construction errors now would be beneficial.
Maybe this just speaks more to my own drafting philosophy,

I think having an elite 1B is the most important part of roster construction. In every draft, I have at least one 1B by the end of round 3. The elite tier is Goldschmidt/Rizzo/Cabrera/Freeman/Votto/Encarnacion, and I'm leaving every important draft with at least one of those.

I guess Abreu has upside and Myers could repeat 25/25 if he stays healthy,

but I think the value over replacement 1B, especially this year, is that it's important to get "elite" over "average 12-team starter."

So I hate that you're starting Adrian there, his K%, BB%, FB%, and ISO are all going in the wrong direction, and he has a hot prospect breathing down his neck in Bellinger.

At least he's durable so 85 RBI is a lock. 20 HR might be a stretch at this point though, and I worry about that for you.

On the other hand, I think 3B is the deepest position this year, so you should leave every draft (that plays CI or multiple UTIL) with 2 or 3 of them. The 1st rounders are all elite, and Bryant is obviously fine. I just think there are great values to be had in the middle rounds (like Longoria or Lamb or Turner) and late (like Healy or Shaw) that it makes sense to fill other spots with them.
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03-15-2017 , 04:13 PM
I think Lindor is better in real life than fantasy.

What's his upside? 15/15 with a good average?

*edit* He was 15/19 in 684 PA last year

In the 3rd round I'll pass.

I would have taken a 1B there.

Last edited by TJ Eckleburg12; 03-15-2017 at 04:19 PM.
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03-15-2017 , 04:27 PM
If SRM is planting his flag on Domingo Santana,

mine is planted on Ryon Healy (3B Oak).

The 25 year old got called up after the All Star break and hit .305/.337/.524 with 13 HR in 72 games.

Minor league numbers don't support the power breakthrough, but he changed his swing once he got to The Show.

per Fangraphs:

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Below-average slugging numbers, paired with below-average patience, and questions about his ability to stay at third -- these aren't the ways you rocket up prospect lists. A couple teammates staged an intervention of sorts with Healy, however, and pointed out that his hands were way too high and that he was swinging down on the ball. Healy changed the way he loaded his hands, which led to more loft on the ball and an explosion in power numbers in 2016. Projections see this as a one-year phenomenon and regress him back to the power levels he showed before. That's fine. We need that sort of conservative approach in our toolbox. But in this case, we've got a guy with good ability to make contact and spray the ball to both power alleys who changed his mechanics in order to tap into more power. Bet on the power. Bet on better than .280 and more than 24 homers in '17 from the Athletics' new third baseman.
Qualifies at 3B, might qualify at 1B since his defense sucks, and will DH when he's not in the field.

He's going basically for free in drafts, and if he's Jake Lamb in 2016, then he's worth it.

Bad teams are great places to find breakouts.

Last edited by TJ Eckleburg12; 03-15-2017 at 04:37 PM.
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03-15-2017 , 04:35 PM
I've liked Healy since last year, problem is he's on Oakland and is just overlooked/discounted. And 3B is surprisingly deep, so hard to justify in a 12 team with no CI

Also, saw someone talk today about Sano. He got his first BB in ST today, but 12 K in 24 AB so far, I know it's just ST but bleh, really hope he starts to look a bit better soon
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03-15-2017 , 08:11 PM
Pineda today: 5 0 0 0 8

Setting up his usual broken hearts nicely.
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03-15-2017 , 08:13 PM
i refuse to ever draft Pineda, he's like Liriano but rarely hits his ceiling like Liriano does
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03-15-2017 , 08:51 PM
I'm going down with the Pineda/Ray ships
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03-15-2017 , 08:54 PM
Ray I'm fine with, Walker I'm hesitant towards, Pineda no thanks
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03-15-2017 , 10:02 PM
Meh, over the past 2 years Pineda has a slightly better K%, and better BB%, FIP, SIERA, WHIP, and ERA. Not to mention more innings pitched and more W's.
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03-16-2017 , 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
2 other things I'm very interested in in ST:

1. Giants #5. If it's Cain then who cares. If it's blach and especially if it's beede this is worth keeping an eye on
2. The Brewers batting order. Domingo Santana and Travis Shaw can both be hugely value picks if they're consistently 3 and 5 respectively although I'd be stunned if Shaw isn't a platoon
Late to this thread and not sure if you are still interested but I'm thinking the Brewers order will be something like this:

1. Villar/Broxton
2. Broxton/Villar
3. Braun
4. Thames/Santana
5. Santana/Thames
6. Shaw/Perez
7. Arcia/Catcher
8. Catcher/Arcia

Thames/Santana/Shaw/Perez could all be pretty interchangeable in the 4-6 spots, one of them might occasionally get the #2 spot with Villar or Broxton getting the #5 spot on those days.

Also, don't sleep on Keon Broxton, his break-out before getting injured last season looks to be completely real (ignore his april-june stats last year)! He looks great and fully recovered this spring.

In again for 2017, last year's thread was great and helped me a lot.

Last edited by Shoe; 03-16-2017 at 03:59 AM.
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03-16-2017 , 09:17 PM
WHat are your thoughts about drafting or including setup men in your fantasy team? Players like Betances, Brach, Miller, etc?
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03-16-2017 , 09:38 PM
Broxton's advanced stats point to his 2nd half being a complete fluke to me.
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03-16-2017 , 09:58 PM
Not complete. His exit velocity in the 2nd was pretty monstrous. There's something there imo.
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03-17-2017 , 04:03 AM
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Broxton's advanced stats point to his 2nd half being a complete fluke to me.
Do those "advanced" stats account for him completely changing his approach during his last minor league stint? I will give you that his strikeout rate will most likely remain high, but he is a bargain compared to his ADP. At a minimum, take him in the late/last rounds (depending how deep your league is) and he will outperform similar to how Villar did last year. Just great value.

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03-17-2017 , 08:57 AM
Ya but does he have hot girlfriend?
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03-17-2017 , 12:02 PM
Pineda's homers will be a problem for as long as he calls the Yankees/al east home but I think it's time to get over it and accept him as one of your own

1. 14% swstr
2. 10/2 k/bb/9
3. Decent chance he's traded at which point literally anywhere he goes is an upgrade and perhaps most importantly
4. The defense is improved. Was near the bottom of baseball last year and the 3 worst violators no longer exist and the 4th worst (Castro) can't be long for this team

He's going to frustrate but his floor is 200 ks with mediocre to bad ratios. His upside is beyond legitimate
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03-17-2017 , 06:13 PM
Thats what I'm talking about!


Man, I would love looooove to see him in SF
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03-17-2017 , 10:14 PM
lucas duda is owned exactly nowhere and i'm beginning to think that's a mistake

not that i'd draft him unless it's with the last pick but he's by all accounts healthy which would (barring him getting hurt) make him an amazing bargain
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03-17-2017 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
lucas duda is owned exactly nowhere and i'm beginning to think that's a mistake

not that i'd draft him unless it's with the last pick but he's by all accounts healthy which would (barring him getting hurt) make him an amazing bargain
I mean he's not even a top 20 1B (ok, maybe borderline?), and he's hitting 7th? I'll pass
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03-17-2017 , 10:18 PM
shawn kelley not likely to be opening day closer for the nats. hasn't pitched in a game in over a week.

am i crazy to think koda glover is the guy to own here?
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03-17-2017 , 10:23 PM
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shawn kelley not likely to be opening day closer for the nats. hasn't pitched in a game in over a week.

am i crazy to think koda glover is the guy to own here?
No, but I'd lean Treinen since it's Dusty Baker since he's all about experience and really it's a tossup
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03-17-2017 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkOneMore
I mean he's not even a top 20 1B (ok, maybe borderline?), and he's hitting 7th? I'll pass
for now, yea, fine

he entered last year as the cleanup hitter and was injured for basically all of it. at the very least he'll be moved up ahead of bruce as the season goes on, i expect the same as far as granderson
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03-17-2017 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
for now, yea, fine

he entered last year as the cleanup hitter and was injured for basically all of it. at the very least he'll be moved up ahead of bruce as the season goes on, i expect the same as far as granderson
just looked at their entire lineup and everyone is over 30 except d'arnaud, holy **** that seems bad lol

As the season goes on I expect less Bruce and more Conforto, and not sure how they'll put him in if same spot or not. Either way, would rather just avoid that offense except maybe Cespedes
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03-17-2017 , 10:39 PM
ya it's not ideal

having said in that duda's 2 years before the injury he averaged 32 homers and 92 rbi over a 162 game pace despite hitting in an offense that was utterly horse**** basically until cespedes showed up. check out the 2014 mets if you really want a chuckle

duda's only 31 and is healthy. he WILL rebound. assuming the hitters atop the order don't fall off the face of the earth there's a lot of 30/100 equity here and among 1b/util that puts him in a pretty good class
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