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02-21-2017 , 12:52 PM
espn faab question

if we have our league set the waiver process time at 11 each day will all unclaimed players go directly to free agency until the first pitch of the first game
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02-21-2017 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LFC_USA
Sorry if this is the wrong place but I've only played fantasy baseball a couple times the last being ~10 years ago but I'd like to try to get back into it.

Are there any low stakes h2h leagues?

The rotisserie scoring always bothered me so I'd like to avoid that. I'm looking for h2h like fantasy football where there is a single winner and single loser (or tie) each week. Does this even exist? Are there formats now that don't require you to check and set your lineup everyday? Thanks for the help
Best bet for a low stakes h2h league is likely a Yahoo Pro League, they have $20, $50, $100, and higher.

There's no single winner or loser because H2H Points isn't a real big thing in MLB like NFL, it's 10 catergories and outcomes of 7-3 or 4-5-1, not 1-0 or 0-1.
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02-21-2017 , 04:35 PM
Wieters to Nats (if they don't trade Norris, seems weird)

Also Britton dealing with an oblique injury
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02-21-2017 , 09:34 PM
In a keeper league, been offered Rizzo for Seager, may counter with Rizzo for Turner. Are these even trades or should a side add more?

I currently have no 1B
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02-21-2017 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by IlliniLou
In a keeper league, been offered Rizzo for Seager, may counter with Rizzo for Turner. Are these even trades or should a side add more?

I currently have no 1B
edit: for some reason I was thinking Kyle Seager, I think they are both possible. Don't see someone trading Turner tho, at least I wouldn't.

Wait this confuses me, you would rather trade away Turner than Seager?
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02-21-2017 , 09:55 PM
I have Corey Seager and Turner. He views Seager much more valuable than Turner. Im just in love with Rizzo
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02-21-2017 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by IlliniLou
I have Corey Seager and Turner. He views Seager much more valuable than Turner. Im just in love with Rizzo
Ya I think Seager for Rizzo is fine.
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02-21-2017 , 10:09 PM
Think he might be the only guy (or one of few) that views Seager>Turner, definitely do Seager for Rizzo
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02-21-2017 , 10:43 PM
So the more you all discuss pitchers I am becoming more convinced the optimal play in redrafts is to somehow grab two aces in the first three rounds. Obviously the number of teams and your draft position are going to matter in terms of actually doing that but looking at the NFBC data after Archer (13th SP / ADP 53):

14 - Strasburg - injured all the time
15 - Carrasco - injured recently
16 - Hendricks - ok sure whatever
17 - C Martinez - actually like him
18 - deGrom - injured
19 - Hamels - FIP is pushing 4 in the AL
20 - Tanaka - like him somewhat
21 - Greinke - horrendous park shift, many doubts
22 - Maeda - like a fair amount but as an SP2? Made 32 starts just 175 IP
23 - Duffy - I like but speaks to the SP depth he is #23 here
24 - Sanchez - see Duffy above
25 - Quintana - worst team and defense in the AL?
26 - Porcello - serious regression candidate
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02-21-2017 , 11:07 PM
thanks for advice, got rizzo and a slight pick upgrade for Corey Seager
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02-22-2017 , 01:12 AM
Did some mocks, have some early round draft thoughts.

I'm not drafting Jose Altuve. ESPN has him #2 overall which I think is crazy. I think we've already seen his career best year for HR. I just don't think someone that small can have power that consistent. Even if you believe in the power (and I obviously don't), he's basically 10 HR better than Jose Peraza or Eduardo Nunez, who are going in the late rounds. I can make up 10 HR later in the draft. I have him behind Trout, Betts, Arenado, Bryant, Goldschmidt, Rizzo, and Kershaw (in that order), which means I'm never drafting him.

I'm not drafting Charlie Blackmon. Ignoring the fact that he went to the Technical College for Losers, I simply don't believe in relying on 30-year-olds for speed. At 11 overall, if he doesn't swipe at least 25 bags, you're coming out behind, and I don't think he will.

I'm also not crazy about the elite shortstops past Machado. Where C. Seager, Correa, Lindor, and Bogaerts are going, I can get a proven 30-35+ HR bat at CI or OF, and I just value that higher.
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02-22-2017 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NDfan
edit: for some reason I was thinking Kyle Seager, I think they are both possible. Don't see someone trading Turner tho, at least I wouldn't.

Wait this confuses me, you would rather trade away Turner than Seager?
I would rather have Corey Seager than Turner in any league thats not 5x5 roto.

Just a general observation, but it seems like people are getting way too focused on the "shortage of steals" even in leagues where steals are not really worth that much - for example in 6x6 H2H with OBP and SLG (or TB).

As an extreme example, say you draft a team where you project for the lowest steal total in the league, like 20 steals fewer than the next worst team.
In roto, youre getting 1 roto point, no way around it, which kills you.
In H2H... so what. Youre still going to randomly win steals at least 4-5 times throughout the year just due to small sample variance.

Last edited by cs3; 02-22-2017 at 01:20 AM.
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02-22-2017 , 01:19 AM
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Best bet for a low stakes h2h league is likely a Yahoo Pro League, they have $20, $50, $100, and higher.

There's no single winner or loser because H2H Points isn't a real big thing in MLB like NFL, it's 10 catergories and outcomes of 7-3 or 4-5-1, not 1-0 or 0-1.


Thank you very much for the response. This is what I was afraid of. That scoring format and the need to check every single day (which kind of go hand in hand) are what turned me off the Fantasy Baseball in the first place. Might still be fun to do some low stakes for a sweat but there's zero chance of me maintaining this as much as would be required to actually be competitive. Thanks for the response though
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02-22-2017 , 01:37 AM
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Thank you very much for the response. This is what I was afraid of. That scoring format and the need to check every single day (which kind of go hand in hand) are what turned me off the Fantasy Baseball in the first place. Might still be fun to do some low stakes for a sweat but there's zero chance of me maintaining this as much as would be required to actually be competitive. Thanks for the response though
You might be able to find some weekly lineup lock leagues, try watching https://www.reddit.com/r/findaleague/ or post there for one? Never really used it, but could easily just use a league with leaguesafe or something
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02-22-2017 , 01:41 AM
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You might be able to find some weekly lineup lock leagues, try watching https://www.reddit.com/r/findaleague/ or post there for one? Never really used it, but could easily just use a league with leaguesafe or something
Cool thanks. Do h2h like 1-0 0-1 even exist? Really appreciate the feedback. I realize this is extreme lol no0b stuff for this thread but do appreciate the responses. I'd even be up for a $20 2+2 league (prefer that to a reddit league tbh) and just take my lumps and see how it goes. Def don't want high stakes though
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02-22-2017 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by LFC_USA
Cool thanks. Do h2h like 1-0 0-1 even exist? Really appreciate the feedback. I realize this is extreme lol no0b stuff for this thread but do appreciate the responses. I'd even be up for a $20 2+2 league (prefer that to a reddit league tbh) and just take my lumps and see how it goes. Def don't want high stakes though
Points leagues aren't common in baseball (which is how you'd win 1-0 or 0-1 like NFL), and neither is weekly lineup locks. People prefer weekly a lot for picking up pitchers, and not getting screwed over by injuries or DL'ed players, etc. A lot different when it's 1 game a week per team to 5-6 games a week per team.
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02-22-2017 , 01:53 AM
If you commish you can set up a single win/loss per week league on Yahoo with a custom setup, but they really are not very popular and might be difficult to fill.
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02-22-2017 , 01:56 AM
Beginning to think this is the year 1. Kershaw is correct
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02-22-2017 , 02:15 AM
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Beginning to think this is the year 1. Kershaw is correct
2 years ago I did an experiment drafting Kershaw and 8 closers for my pitching staff

Won the league comfortably, though it was a free ESPN league, so ymmv
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02-22-2017 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NDfan
Should we do a mock draft? I can set up a google sheet like we did before, and just do a slow draft, maybe 12 team snake?
I'm in for this if it happens.
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02-22-2017 , 02:38 PM
ya i'm talking myself into thinking 1. kershaw is objectively the right move now

every pitcher after madbum up to probably the #25 pitcher off the board is a very clear health landmine or stable but big overpay. kershaw scherzer and madbum are the only 3 pithcers you can take in the first 2 rounds and have them be worth what you're paying for them and even in the case of scherzer there is now a very clear health landmine and madbum comes with the perpetual risk of all those innings finally catching up with him. plus looking at all these drafts people chasing high end pitchers in rounds 2-6 is causing a massive glut of quality offense to fall through the cracks

taking kershaw prevents you from having to buy super high on a pitcher in the next few rounds and allows you to focus on offense/closers until you reach the hill/duffy tier of high upside relatively cheap ADP
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02-22-2017 , 02:55 PM
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I'm in for this if it happens.
Now in as well
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02-22-2017 , 09:05 PM
Dozier or pollock with OBP
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02-22-2017 , 10:02 PM
Their projections are close enough that health has to be a tie breaker. Dozier 155+ games the last three years.

Unless you have some team specific stuff going on like you badly need an OF or SB.
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02-22-2017 , 10:32 PM
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Their projections are close enough that health has to be a tie breaker. Dozier 155+ games the last three years.

Unless you have some team specific stuff going on like you badly need an OF or SB.
agree on all this and obv dozier HR ceiling is important
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