Do you play roto or H2H? Two different games!

Roto, which is what we are talking about unless I'm mistaken

I was in the 10 spot (uhg!) but it went okay I think. Closers went quicker than I had hoped but like my SP the lineup is balanced but weak and gotta hope the SPs work out. Fantasy baseball is always a work in progress and I typically have a lot of turnover

1. Blackmon OF
2. Scherzer SP
3. Villar 2B/3B/SS
4. Lester SP
5. Hendricks SP
6. Abreu 1B
7. Colome RP (8 RPs already gone by this point)
8. Herrara RP
9. Quintana SP
10. Kemp OF
11. Eaton OF
12. Watson RP
13. Nunez SS/3B
14. Mauerer RP
15. Fowler OF
16. Gattis C
17. Miller 1B/SS
18. Beltran OF
19. Kiermaier OF
20. Walker 2B
21. Brach RP
22. Gomez RP
23. Hudson RP

Keon Broxton will be battling Villar for steals leader.

You're ****ed

Holy **** this team is bad, would be shocked if you finished top 6.

Hendricks in the 5th is mind numbingly bad and I'm assuming you picked Blackmon over Harper or Rizzo which is incredibly bad as well.

You are going to finish bottom 3 in homers and RBI

Hitter over scherzer, anyone over Blackmon, chapman or Jensen over Lester, Watson isn't the official closer yet, and ya Hendricks in the 5th is unforgivable

Your closer situation over a full season is horrible since Herrera and Colome are the 2 most likely to be traded, you for some reason went pitching early and still only have 4 SPs which is...strange. I realize it's roto but if you're gonna take scherzer 2nd you better make damn sure you dominate ks and wins. Not only did you not take enough pitchers to do that the ones you took aren't even really strikeout pitchers and one of them plays for the worst team in baseball. You will be at or near the bottom in hr and RBI and you damaged your average with the hitters you took to fill the lineup

Thanks for all the support! I know everyone here is hitter oriented but that just doesn't work so well in roto. I have another draft tomorrow and will be employing a different strategy (heavy bats/speed and closers). But loading the boat with slow power hitters is a losing strategy. The team I am most worried about is the guy who took RPs in rounds 3 through 7. Hendricks a reach? Probably but when you are at the end there was no way an SP I wanted was getting back to me. There are worse things than an absolute stellar whip/era on a winning team That's if he can even be close to last year and stays healthy but you can say that about anyone.

Any cobbled together pitching staff will suck in roto. It just will. And you cannot ignore steals. If you punt any category you lose.

Which is funny because you just punted two categories bordering on 3 with avg.

You know what else you can't do in roto and win? Put together a cobbled aging offense and expect to be competitive

I'm not interested in being critical, just think it's an interesting discussion since it's so different than the way I would go. Trying to execute your strategy from the 10 spot, wouldn't you be better served going Scherzer, Bumgarner, Villar, and then getting maybe a Pollock or Myers?

Year in and year out this sentiment proves to be completely false. Can you build a rotation that will top the pitching rankings if you don't take one in the first 10? Maybe not, but you can very easily build one that's at worst average which coupled with an elite offense will get you to the top

The problem with your sentiment relative to your draft is that you used the 15th overall pick on a guy with a fractured knuckle in his pitching hand who's using a brand new grip this season. There's a chance he pitches well enough to justify the pick in spite of that but there's a greater chance he doesn't

And even if he does you failed to supplement this pick with a single other 9 k/9 starter, so the hypothetical 250 ks scherzer gets you are watered down quickly. You ratios SHOULD be close to the top but the other 3 volume categories are in trouble already

I can't adequately express how bad 1. Blackmon in light of what you followed it up with. I agree with your premise that you need steals in a roto but you have so much more than you need and nothing in power/RBI. You don't even have high upside late round fliers cuz you wasted those picks on middle relievers who might be closers or will be middle relievers. You don't have starters with upside for the same reason

The only pitchers I'm paying up for in a roto this year are kershaw, madbum, Jansen and chapman. All 4 are worth their ADP or are outright steals at their ADP. Much easier to build a staff in the later rounds around them than to build an offense in the later rounds around Blackmon and villar

No comments????:confuse d:

Ehhhh this doesn't really strike me as a team with a dominant pitching staff. It should be good, but with as offensive as your offense is youre going to need max points in every pitching cat and i just dont see it. How are you even going to hit your pitching inning max without streaming? You only drafted 4 SP by my count.
Also was your goal to win steals by like 50 over the 2nd place team? Villar, Blackmon, Eaton, Nunez, Kiermaier conservatively project for ~125 steals by themselves. Meanwhile your whole team might not even combine for that many RBI lol. And brace yourself for 1 roto point in HR.

Even if your strategy is viable I dont think your execution is in this case.

Luffy,
are we supposed to guess what changes you made? How can anyone critique them when we have no idea what you did?

Does this help?

Blackdragon:

Drafted:

BlackDragon
1. (4) Clayton Kershaw (LAD - SP)
2. (21) Max Scherzer (Was - SP)
3. (28) Robinson Canó (Sea - 2B)
4. (45) Daniel Murphy (Was - 1B,2B)
5. (52) Carlos González (Col - OF)
6. (69) Edwin Díaz (Sea - RP)
7. (76) Dee Gordon (Mia - 2B)
8. (93) Todd Frazier (CWS - 1B,3B)
9. (100) Mark Melancon (SF - RP)
10. (117) Miguel Sano (Min - 3B,OF)
11. (124) Tanner Roark (Was - SP)
12. (141) Evan Gattis (Hou - C)
13. (148) Lorenzo Cain (KC - OF)
14. (165) Aledmys Diaz (StL - SS)
15. (172) Sean Manaea (Oak - SP)
16. (189) Ben Zobrist (ChC - 2B,OF)
17. (196) J.A. Happ (Tor - SP)
18. (213) Raisel Iglesias (Cin - SP,RP)
19. (220) Tony Watson (Pit - RP)
20. (237) Melky Cabrera (CWS - OF)
21. (244) Jarrod Dyson (Sea - OF)
22. (261) Ian Kennedy (KC - SP)
23. (268) Martín Prado (Mia - 3B)

Currently:
C Evan Gattis
1B Daniel Murphy
2B Cano
3B: Prado
SS Aledmys Diaz
OF Car Go
OF Lorenzo Cain
OF Gregory Polanco
Util Dee Gordon
Util Ben Zobrist
BN Sano
BN Melky
BN Jarrod Dyson

SP Kershaw
SP Scherzer
RP Edwin DIaz
RP Mark Melancon
P Roark
P JA Happ
P Ian Kennedy
P Sean Manaea
BN Brad Brach
BN Rasiel Iglesias

Flying Eagles:

Drafted:
Flying Eagles
1. (5) Manny Machado (Bal - 3B,SS)
2. (20) Starling Marte (Pit - OF)
3. (29) Jon Lester (ChC - SP)
4. (44) Gary Sánchez (NYY - C)
5. (53) Aroldis Chapman (NYY - RP)
6. (68) Jacob deGrom (NYM - SP)
7. (77) Evan Longoria (TB - 3B)
8. (92) Julio Teherán (Atl - SP)
9. (101) José Bautista (Tor - OF)
10. (116) Mark Melancon (SF - RP)
11. (125) Ben Zobrist (ChC - 2B,OF)
12. (140) Greg Bird (NYY - 1B)
13. (149) Francisco Rodríguez (Det - RP)
14. (164) Jon Gray (Col - SP)
15. (173) Joc Pederson (LAD - OF)
16. (188) Matt Holliday (NYY - 1B,OF)
17. (197) Elvis Andrus (Tex - SS)
18. (212) Steve Pearce (Tor - 1B,2B,OF)
19. (221) Ervin Santana (Min - SP)
20. (236) Josh Reddick (Hou - OF)
21. (245) Jeremy Hellickson (Phi - SP)
22. (260) Melky Cabrera (CWS - OF)
23. (269) Bartolo Colón (Atl - SP)

Current:

C Gary Sanchez
1B Greg Bird
2B Zobrist
3B: Longoria
SS Manny Machado
OF Marte
OF Joey Bats
OF Joc Pederson
Util Matt Holiday
Util Elvis Andrus
BN Reddick
BN Melky


SP Lester
SP DeGrom
RP Chapman
RP Mark Melancon
P Teheran
P F. Rodriguez
P Ervin Santana
P Jeremy Hellickson
BN Brad Brach
BN Bartolo COlon
BN Jon Gray

I have made money playing straight roto every year for more than a decade running and have no idea what you're talking about. Investing your high picks in volatile injury risks makes very little sense, especially when they're SPs who affect fewer categories than the hitters you're taking them over. I can understand taking one SP high, but forcing it makes very little sense and taking a second pitcher anywhere in the vicinity of the first is nonsensical.

6x6 w/
R RBI SB OBP XBH TB,
ERA WHIP K/BB W SV K

How'd it go?

1.4 - Paul Goldschmidt (1B)
2.21 - Daniel Murphy (2B/1B)
3.28 - Justin Verlander (SP)
4.45 - Christian Yelich (OF)
5.52 - Carlos Santana (CI)
6.69 - Mashiro Tanaka (SP)
7.76 - Jean Segura (SS/2B)
8.93 - Jose Ramirez (3B/OF)
9.100 - Ken Giles (RP)
10.117 - Adam Eaton (OF)
11.124 - Rich Hill (SP)
12.141 - Kole Calhoun (OF)
13.148 - Jameson Taillon (SP)
14.165 - Aaron Nola (SP)
15.172 - Jamex Paxton (SP)
16.189 - Raisel Iglesias (RP)
17.196 - Kevin Kiermaier (OF)
18.213 - Marcus Semien (MI)
19.220 - Neftali Feliz (RP)
20.237 - Shin-Soo Choo (OF)
21.244 - Alex Wood (RP/SP)
22.261 - Domingo Santana (OF)
23.268 - Jon Musgrove (SP)
24.285 - Carter Capps (SP)
25.292 - Mitch Haniger (OF)
26.309 - Sean Doolittle (SP)
27.316 - Francisco Cervelli (C)
28.333 - Wei-Yin Chen (SP)

Current Lineup:

C Cervelli
1B Goldschmidt
2B Murphy
3B: Ramirez
SS Segura
OF Yelich
OF Eaton
OF Calhoun
OF Kiermaier
Util Choo
Util D. Santana
BN Haniger

SP Verlander
SP Tanaka
SP Hill
SP Taillon
SP Nola
SP Paxton
RP Giles
RP Iglesias
RP Feliz
P Musgrove
P Capps
P Doolittle
BN Wood
BN Chen

Initial thought is my hitting is kind of weak. I didn't really like many of the hitters available in the 140-180 range though, and by then I needed RBI and there wasn't much available.

I agree with your assessment. I probably would have tried to get more rbi out of your 7/8 picks, but those are both guys I like.

i got roped into doing kind of a big money fantasy baseball league. thing is i haven't played fantasy baseball in like 6 years and am pretty out of touch though i follow baseball a decent amount. i've been listening to a lot of podcasts but i was wondering if someone would sweat the draft with me. i can pay or owe beer/a nice dinner if you're somewhere between maryland live and foxwoods.

Anther draft just completed. I think this one went much better but I am sure you guys will likely still hate it

Out of the 6 hole and of course the 5 guys I wanted were gone. The plan was to go 4 hitters and 4 RPs in first 8. That didn't happen But I do like the balance although wish I had one more closer. Wasn't planning on an early SP but just didn't like the bats there with Bum staring me in the face.

1. Arenado 3B
2. Bumgarner SP
3. Villar 2B, 3B, SS
4. Myers 1B, OF
5. McCutcheon OF
6. Oh RP
7. Diaz RP
8. Kimbrel RP
9. Quintana SP
10. Trumbo OF
11.Pedroia 2B
12. Bradley Jr. OF
13.Taillon SP
14. Andrus SS
15. Paxton SP
16. Ozuna OF
17. Zobrist 2B, OF
18. Reed RP
19. Vogt C
20. Barraclough RP
21. Neris RP
22. Wacha SP
23. Brach RP

That team is actually much better. I still think it's a huge leak to go with 3 closers where you're taking them but at least those guys should maintain their jobs