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07-28-2014 , 09:15 PM
Wouldn't you be strongly advised to do that though with QB's and WR'S/TE's? (obv not for QBs and RB's, or RB's and receivers).
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07-28-2014 , 11:04 PM
Tbh, I don't think it matters anyway, just don't intentionally do it. If Alshon or Marshall are still there in a spot you think they are BPA, grab them. Don't worry about having Forte. I would advise to attempt to avoid grabbing WR duos on the same team. Any other combo wouldn't worry me.
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07-28-2014 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ashley12
12 man from the 8 spot, standard scoring 1/2/2/1/rb-wr flex/def/k

Lacy (Ball, Manning, Dez)
Julio (Morris, Marshall, Brees)
J.Thomas (VJax, Spiller, Garcon, Bush)
Ryan Matthews (CJ2K, Foles, Allen, Welker)
Harvin (Hilton, Floyd, Luck, DJax)
Maclin (Brady, Tate, Watkins, Wallace)
MJD (Colston, Williams, Cooper, only RBs Michael and Sproles)
Ryan (Ebron, Pierce, Romo)
Cooks (McFadden, Ertz, Bowe, Hyde)
Evans (Nicks, Hopkins, Amendola)
Benjamin (Steve Smith, Marvin Jones)
Ivory (Tre Mason and Davis for RBs, Boykin and Dobson for WRs)
Palmer (McCown, Tannehill)
Gates (Heath Miller, Arizona)
Chicago (Tampa, NO, Buffalo)

Thoughts?

Lacy probably won't be there, so expecting to get Ball usually and almost always start RB/WR unless Calvin drops somehow (my friends are dumb, but no that much.

Julio vs Marshall is close I guess but preference. Its likely my pick will be made for me though with whoever is left out of those, AJ and Dez on the day though.

Wasn't expecting to take Thomas in any plan, but I think he is better than what was left. Was sniped on both Stacy and Ellington who I would have taken had they been available.

Maclin was a really bad pick, should have taken Tate but didn't even realise he was still on the board. woops.

The rest was done without much care (still haven't put much effort into looking into later round sleepers yet)

Thoughts?
I'm not the best handicapper but I think Maclin>>Tate
That is a lot of rookie WR's. I think Allen last year was only the 11th rookie ever to break 1,000yds (fact check this please). So what are you really expecting from them if one of them hit? I think hopkins, jones and dobson all have higher ceilings.
And ya, no way lacy is there on draft day in standard scoring.
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07-28-2014 , 11:09 PM
If Peyton was taken after Lacy, I'm curious who somebody took that allow lacy to fall.
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07-29-2014 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
http://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/draft/2237862

just did this from the 7, to see what a jimmeh/WR start could look like. i kind of like it, it'd take an awful lot of bad running for the entirety of the QB/RB options to be hot garbage

this seems like an interesting strategy from the 7/8 in YPL formats this year. tried it on that fantasy pros mock draft program thingie. not sure if this is reasonable. plan was to start graham and one of either ajg/dez/demaryius, go WR/WR 3rd/4th and then just pick up RBs and be the last team to draft a QB. first attempt:

Your Team

1.7 Jimmy Graham, NO
2.4 A.J. Green, Cin
3.7 Alshon Jeffery, Chi
4.4 Vincent Jackson, TB
5.7 Toby Gerhart, Jac
6.4 Rashad Jennings, NYG
7.7 Joique Bell, Det
8.4 Jeremy Maclin, Phi
9.7 Bernard Pierce, Bal
10.4 Sammy Watkins, Buf
11.7 Christine Michael, Sea
12.4 Colin Kaepernick, SF
13.7 Andy Dalton, Cin
14.4 Carlos Hyde, SF
15.7 New England Patriots, NE



edit:

did it again. this team feels significantly better to me.

Your Team

1.7 Jimmy Graham, NO
2.4 A.J. Green, Cin
3.7 Alshon Jeffery, Chi
4.4 Keenan Allen, SD
5.7 C.J. Spiller, Buf
6.4 Toby Gerhart, Jac
7.7 Robert Griffin, Was
8.4 Joique Bell, Det
9.7 Bernard Pierce, Bal
10.4 Terrance West, Cle
11.7 Cecil Shorts, Jac
12.4 Christine Michael, Sea
13.7 DeAndre Hopkins, Hou
14.4 Ben Roethlisberger, Pit
15.7 Cincinnati Bengals, Cin

Last edited by 34TheTruth34; 07-29-2014 at 12:31 AM.
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07-29-2014 , 12:50 AM
Wow those are actually really nice considering your first RB is r5
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07-29-2014 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
If Peyton was taken after Lacy, I'm curious who somebody took that allow lacy to fall.
D.Thomas at 7
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07-29-2014 , 05:31 AM
Makes sense. That's pretty much what you're hoping for in the 8 spot IMO. That somebody spazzes and Graham/Calvin/Lacy falls.
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07-29-2014 , 09:40 PM
Starting to get the Fantasy Football itch decided to do a mock on Yahoo. Haven't really done much thinking or research yet and went in with no plan. Typically I like hording RBs early. This was a 10 team Yahoo (QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE DEF, K). I never played a 3 WR league and always have had 2 WR + Flex which doesn't favor my RB RB RB typical strategy. I was in the 2 hole.

1. McCoy RB
2. Rodgers QB
3. Stacy RB
4. Garcon WR
5. White WR
6. Tate WR
7. Decker WR
8. Jennings RB
9. Wallace WR
10. MJ Drew RB
11. Reed TE
12. Wallace WR
13. Rice RB
14. Stills WR
15. Arizona DEF
16. Gould K

I never go QB early so decided to see what it looked like. I got no stud WRs in a 3 WR league so that may suck but I like the depth at both WR and RB. I probably will never draft a QB this early though.
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07-30-2014 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Seeing a ton of people in mocks going with one of Woodhead, Sproles, Rice, Jennings, MJD, Richardson as their RB2 (after a start like WR/WR/TE/RB). I think of that bunch only Jennings could be a true RB2. Everybody else is gonna be by matchup at best.

Anyone want to hazard a guess on a stat line for Jennings? I think he winds up being the value pick of his round.
In a PPR lotto tickets on guys who catch balls and don't rush for a lot of yards like Sproles, Woodhead etc are my favorite RB2s. Sproles can average 10-20 points every week just by getting 5 rec 40 yards and rushing for 35 yards. Better than a guy like Jennings who could have a good game where he catches no balls and rushes for 96 yards.
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07-30-2014 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbaseball
Starting to get the Fantasy Football itch decided to do a mock on Yahoo. Haven't really done much thinking or research yet and went in with no plan. Typically I like hording RBs early. This was a 10 team Yahoo (QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE DEF, K). I never played a 3 WR league and always have had 2 WR + Flex which doesn't favor my RB RB RB typical strategy. I was in the 2 hole.

1. McCoy RB
2. Rodgers QB
3. Stacy RB
not liking stacy at 22, would much prefer morris if available, and i don't think waiting until the 8th for your third RB is optimal, although i guess yahoo's default rankings are doing the same thing they do every year (underrating RB's) if you can get jennings there, and rice falling to the 13th is just silly
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07-30-2014 , 12:46 PM
12 team Auction keeper league 2r/2w/1flex. 1/2 PRR w/ all TDs are 6 points

We get $300 to draft and this is the 2nd year. You can keep a player for a 15% increase over his last year draft price or FAAB price (whichever is greater), w/ the min you can keep a player being $8.

I can only keep 3 of the following:

Peyton Manning for 64 (73)
mega for 84 (77)
jimmy graham for 52 (74)
andre ellington for 8 (32)

In parenthesis are the average prices of what ESPN writers think there auction price should be in standard and PPR (I assume their numbers don't include 6 pts for a pass TD though). These number suggest I don't keep mega, but it sounds so sexy to keep 3 players that are 1st round picks this year. Do I keep these 3 and have 2/3 of my budget spent before the draft starts?
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07-30-2014 , 01:13 PM
I think you have to keep Graham and Ellington for sure. It's close between Mega and Peyton I guess since you def won't be keeping them again and ppr and 6pt td's cancel each other out a bit. I guess like other keeper questions a lot of it prob depends on who else is being kept and how diluted that extra $20 would be in practice.

Also, if it helps with the sexiness problem, Peyton is def not worthy of a first round pick imo, even with 6 pt td's.
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07-30-2014 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
not liking stacy at 22, would much prefer morris if available, and i don't think waiting until the 8th for your third RB is optimal, although i guess yahoo's default rankings are doing the same thing they do every year (underrating RB's) if you can get jennings there, and rice falling to the 13th is just silly
I agree, I was just trying to get a feel again for drafting and see how they are playing out. I've done a couple more since that one experimenting with different ideas.

Like I said I have never played in the Yahoo leagues before but may this season. How much does a 2 RB/3 WR format change values of RB/WR from the 2 RB/2 WR/FLEX format I am used to? I'm thinking it makes premier WRs even more valuable while lessening the need for RB depth. In a flex format I am a fanatic for RB depth but in this format you may be able to get by without it. In the few Yahoo drafts I have seen so far there seems to be plenty of value in the mid rounds for both RBs and WRs.

Also how useless are mock drafts? I get the feeling everyone is experimenting and that when real drafts happen they will look nothing like these mocks.
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07-30-2014 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
12 team Auction keeper league 2r/2w/1flex. 1/2 PRR w/ all TDs are 6 points

We get $300 to draft and this is the 2nd year. You can keep a player for a 15% increase over his last year draft price or FAAB price (whichever is greater), w/ the min you can keep a player being $8.

I can only keep 3 of the following:

Peyton Manning for 64 (73)
mega for 84 (77)
jimmy graham for 52 (74)
andre ellington for 8 (32)

In parenthesis are the average prices of what ESPN writers think there auction price should be in standard and PPR (I assume their numbers don't include 6 pts for a pass TD though). These number suggest I don't keep mega, but it sounds so sexy to keep 3 players that are 1st round picks this year. Do I keep these 3 and have 2/3 of my budget spent before the draft starts?
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Originally Posted by Wheatsauce
I think you have to keep Graham and Ellington for sure. It's close between Mega and Peyton I guess since you def won't be keeping them again and ppr and 6pt td's cancel each other out a bit. I guess like other keeper questions a lot of it prob depends on who else is being kept and how diluted that extra $20 would be in practice.

Also, if it helps with the sexiness problem, Peyton is def not worthy of a first round pick imo, even with 6 pt td's.
I don't know if it is a man crush or I am just over weighting the importance of an elite QB in a 6 pt pass TD league, but I see peyton as my best keeper.
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07-30-2014 , 03:16 PM
i think the difference is that you could get someone like cam/kaep for ~30 and have ~30 left to spend on rb/wr, whereas you limit what else you can get with keeping peyton for 64
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07-30-2014 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
I don't know if it is a man crush or I am just over weighting the importance of an elite QB in a 6 pt pass TD league, but I see peyton as my best keeper.
You may be correct and if that's the way you feel, then I say def keep him and throw mega back.

I just think that Peyton's setup has worsened and he is obv due for regression anyway, although he could have a pretty large one and still conceivably be the top QB. Also there may be something to be said for letting someone else spew a bunch of money for him expecting last years stats.
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07-30-2014 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by movieman2g
i think the difference is that you could get someone like cam/kaep for ~30 and have ~30 left to spend on rb/wr, whereas you limit what else you can get with keeping peyton for 64
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Originally Posted by Wheatsauce
You may be correct and if that's the way you feel, then I say def keep him and throw mega back.

I just think that Peyton's setup has worsened and he is obv due for regression anyway, although he could have a pretty large one and still conceivably be the top QB. Also there may be something to be said for letting someone else spew a bunch of money for him expecting last years stats.
Looks like rodgers and brees went for 75 & 69 respectfully last year so they can be kept for 87 & 80. Meaning they probably aren't being kept. I was calling peyton my best keeper before your all's posts now I am definitely going to put some more thought into this.

BTW, the top 9 RBs last year all went for $84 or more (between $84 & $99). So to keep a top 9 RB from last year you are spending almost 1/3 of your budget (97 of 300).

Thank you both for your input.
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07-30-2014 , 06:16 PM
10 spot YPL style. meh?

1.10 Peyton Manning, Den
2.1 Demaryius Thomas, Den
3.10 Rob Gronkowski, NE
4.1 Vincent Jackson, TB
5.10 Percy Harvin, Sea
6.1 Toby Gerhart, Jac
7.10 Rashad Jennings, NYG
8.1 Chris Johnson, NYJ
9.10 Bernard Pierce, Bal
10.1 Terrance West, Cle
11.10 Cecil Shorts, Jac
12.1 Christine Michael, Sea
13.10 Hakeem Nicks, Ind
14.1 Carlos Hyde, SF
15.10 James Jones, Oak
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07-30-2014 , 06:32 PM
I like 2,3,6, and 7. 1, 4, and 5 are meh imo and anything 8 and beyond is pretty worthless in Yahoo mocks because the autopicker is so dumb and almost everyone leaves.
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07-30-2014 , 06:34 PM
Trying to think through some strategy in these draft only leagues. Where highest point total per week counts.

Can a case be made not to backup your kicker or defense and give yourself more shots to put up scores from the rb/wr position? (Probably less so for kicker because of the obvious injury risk and not being able to make a waiver move).

Do you want more than two qbs because you can get rewarded by that random Geno Smith type game?

Draft 22 guys and highest point total from the below is used:

1 Quarterback
2 Running Backs
3 Wide Receivers
1 Tight End
1 Flex (RB, WR or TE)
1 Team Defense
1 Kicker
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07-30-2014 , 08:47 PM
Nope, it's pretty unlikely guys you are drafting in super late rounds are gonna do anything for you.You should have min 2 kickers and 2 defenses. Kicker and defense have a lot of variance and randomness, if anything you should want more of them to benefit from it in best ball format.
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07-31-2014 , 12:56 AM
Feel pretty good about this best ball draft I just finished. PPR league where receptions are 1pt for wr+te and .5pts for rb. 2rb 3wr 1 flex.

Only problem I had was I timed out in Rd 10 and it picked Ebron for me and I was gonna take Dalton. My QB situation is quite the mess because of that but it's best ball so I don't feel as bad.

Team 9

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07-31-2014 , 03:05 AM
Your WR situation is pretty AIDS. The Bell pick is wtf when there are a bunch of #1 RBs left like Stacy, Jennings, Gerhat etc. Though maybe that's due to the best ball format, still seems bad.

The Dexter pick is really sexy btw.
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07-31-2014 , 03:41 AM
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Your WR situation is pretty AIDS. The Bell pick is wtf when there are a bunch of #1 RBs left like Stacy, Jennings, Gerhat etc. Though maybe that's due to the best ball format, still seems bad.

The Dexter pick is really sexy btw.
That team sucks, I'm team #9

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