Why do non ppr leagues still exist?

Because ppr is incredibly stupid prob

Because going RB/RB/RB is all the rage and it doesn't hurt as much in noPPR.

Only noPPR leagues I bother with are YPL and that's cause they are absurdly soft. Still raged I went to the playoffs as the #1 seed in all three of mine last year and finished 4th in all 3.

Just crushed a 12 team standard mock I think? 2rb/2wr/1flex

picked from 5

5. Forte
20. Graham
29. Alshon
44. Gore (Keenan got sniped 1 before... love him)
53. Torrey Smith
68. Toby G
77. Matt Ryan
92. Terrance Williams
101. Lamar Miller
116. Jeremy Hill
125. Reuben Randle
140. Stills
149. Hyde
Devonta Freeman, kicker, D

^^^I think that's pretty standard for standard (haha no pun intended). Or am I discounting Graham too much? I think you got everyone in the right spots. Hyde is good value there. But that looks like a really typical team to me.

i somehow doubt something with graham at 20 is real

Wasn't sure if his stats dropped off a lot in standard. Latest I've seen him go was 13 this year. 20 is pretty damn late.

http://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/draft/2237862

just did this from the 7, to see what a jimmeh/WR start could look like. i kind of like it, it'd take an awful lot of bad running for the entirety of the QB/RB options to be hot garbage

Wow is it typical for Martin to go that low in standard? Have never seen him that low

Like the first 6 for the most part, not too hot on next 3, but then you closed out strong imo.

I'd rather have gone Wallace/Joique/Romo than Tate/Sammy/Kaep. Also would've been tempted by Evans or West in 12, but I get not wanting to rely on 2 rookie WR's, and if you have more faith than me in Tate, then you must see less potential in West obv.

I def think Jimmy in the 1st is doable in 10 teamers, but I'm not sold on it in 12 teamers at this point.

i was surprised to see him there. i was completely ready to take alshon once morris went off the board but 4-6 didn't want him i guess

wheatsauce - would have no problem with wallace at 7 but felt that grabbing the last of the really decent backs available would be a better use, and i'm pretty high on watkins. think between him, shorts and both the weeks that amendola isn't injured i can get more consistence than wallace

You mean in standards, right? With .5 or full ppr he's a definite 1st rder, right?

Correct. I don't do ppr because of how stupid it is

So yahoo pro leagues haven't started yet, but I noticed a blurb on the bottom of the fantasy sports homepage. They will have buyin levels of $20, $50, $100, and $250 this year.

Last year IIRC they had $20, $100, and $250.

Probably means the $100 level will become less soft due to being diluted by the $50 level.

not sure if this belongs in the draft or general discussion thread but here goes:

I sold off my team last year in the first year of a keeper league and have a lot of early picks. I am pretty much the only owner that did this so I have a real advantage heading into this draft.

In a 12 team league (QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R/T, K, DEF) I draft 4th, 16th, 21st, 24th, 33rd, 40th, 47th, and 48th in the first 4 rounds. From that point on I draft standard snake until the 9th round, with the exception of 2 8th round picks. I don't pick again until the 14th rd where my last two picks are but I will probably use those rounds as keepers.

I think solidifying a Charles, AD, or McCoy is huge this year. Since I have the 4th pick there is very little chance I get any (all will be available as you can't keep players drafted in rds 1&2).

1.) What combination of picks would you give up, with my current draft package, to trade up to a 1-3 pick?

2.) Assuming Graham won't be available at 16, how early would you gamble on Gronk considering I have a lot of early picks.

I wouldn't expect Graham to ever be there at 20 again. Even Forte isn't likely to make it to 5. And I'm not loving Gore as an RB2 but I like Gerhart/Hyde. Overall yeah it's nice

Taking an RB4 before a WR3 in that format seems like a leak. I like Watkins upside this year but not enough to immediately rely on him as a WR3.

No worries. They will still be soft as hell.

Fun fact: Tony G's Yahoo ADP in 10t mocks is in the 12 round. looool.

that slow draft site thats been posted in this thread has really bad rake. surprised so many of you guys are doing them.

12 team league, they rake 2 buyins and pay out 10. absurd

Did this YPL (10t, 2rb/3wr/no flex, no ppr) last night from the 3 spot)

1. LeSean McCoy (Phi - RB)
2. Alshon Jeffery (Chi - WR)
3. Zac Stacy (StL - RB)
4. Pierre Garcon (Was - WR)
5. Percy Harvin (Sea - WR)
6. Frank Gore (SF - RB)
7. T.Y. Hilton (Ind - WR)
8. Tom Brady (NE - QB)
9. Ray Rice (Bal - RB)
10. Eric Ebron (Det - TE)
11. Sammy Watkins (Buf - WR)
12. Brandin Cooks (NO - WR)
13. Carlos Hyde (SF - RB)
14. Josh McCown (TB - QB)
15. Cleveland (Cle - DEF)

how are you doing a YPL? I've tried to sign up and they don't seem to have started yet.

think the team is ok. too many rookies for my liking. i could see ebron being good but everything I've ever heard says that tight ends do not perform their first year in the league.

tough for me to approve just because it has a lot of guys I'm avoiding like percy, TY, rice, and all the rookies besides Hyde

Sorry, meant to say it's a mock.

I remember wanted somebody else other than Cooks there but the timer was only 30s so I spazzed and took Cooks with like :01 remaining. I'm not huge on Rice either but he's my RB4 so it's not like I'm depending on him. Probably could have grabbed another TE somewhere also. I know he's a rookie but Detroit throws a lot and he has Calvin to take a lot of coverage off of him. I think Ebron does fine this year.

I think it's bad if two of your skill positions play for the same team. On weeks where Chicago's offense isn't clicking, it'll kill your chances that week. Plus, if Chicago underperforms as a team vs expectations, it's gg season.

I think it's especially bad if they're 2 of your top 3 picks.

Other than that I think that team is fine.

What if those 2 players are Brees & Graham? I've been experimenting with them in the 7 hole of a 12 nan ppr league. Gotta run good with Rbs & Wrs...

12 man from the 8 spot, standard scoring 1/2/2/1/rb-wr flex/def/k

Lacy (Ball, Manning, Dez)
Julio (Morris, Marshall, Brees)
J.Thomas (VJax, Spiller, Garcon, Bush)
Ryan Matthews (CJ2K, Foles, Allen, Welker)
Harvin (Hilton, Floyd, Luck, DJax)
Maclin (Brady, Tate, Watkins, Wallace)
MJD (Colston, Williams, Cooper, only RBs Michael and Sproles)
Ryan (Ebron, Pierce, Romo)
Cooks (McFadden, Ertz, Bowe, Hyde)
Evans (Nicks, Hopkins, Amendola)
Benjamin (Steve Smith, Marvin Jones)
Ivory (Tre Mason and Davis for RBs, Boykin and Dobson for WRs)
Palmer (McCown, Tannehill)
Gates (Heath Miller, Arizona)
Chicago (Tampa, NO, Buffalo)

Thoughts?

Lacy probably won't be there, so expecting to get Ball usually and almost always start RB/WR unless Calvin drops somehow (my friends are dumb, but no that much.

Julio vs Marshall is close I guess but preference. Its likely my pick will be made for me though with whoever is left out of those, AJ and Dez on the day though.

Wasn't expecting to take Thomas in any plan, but I think he is better than what was left. Was sniped on both Stacy and Ellington who I would have taken had they been available.

Maclin was a really bad pick, should have taken Tate but didn't even realise he was still on the board. woops.

The rest was done without much care (still haven't put much effort into looking into later round sleepers yet)

Thoughts?

Right, of course they will still be soft. But a reduction in ROI is a near certainty for the $100's IMO, and less money is still less money.

I was hoping they might add like a $500 buyin, which would most certainly soften up the $100's and $250's even more.

im not worried about having 2 players from the same team in yearly fantasy. i do agree that it is not smart to do that in a daily fantasy huge tournament where you need multiple people to go off