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Hey guys

n00b from last year, first attempt this year. Have been paying attention to the first 6 or 7 rounds, but not looked at all into preferred late round sleepers

12 man from the two hole (I compete in a free and a money draft in Australia, this is where I will draft from for the free)

Charles
Nelsen
Stacy
Gore
Crabtree
Williams
L.Miller
Cooper
Cutler
Evans
Bennett
Ivory
H.Miller
Cleveland D
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http://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/draft/2229390

How did I do?

First 3 look good, next 3 look meh, then is fine-ish the rest of the way besides the Heath Miller pick imo.

If I was exactly in your spots my team would be:

Cutler (got screwed on QB by team 7, won't happen in real draft)
Charles/Stacy/Miller/J Hill/Knile/Bradshaw (yeah i'm an rb whore, plus one of the main advantages to picking 2 rb's in first 3 rounds is not to have to pick a 3rd for a little bit, going 3/4 rb's in first 4 rounds seems spewy to me, esp if it's for a guy with limited upside like Gore)
Jordy/Roddy/Wallace/Evans/Hunter (not high on Crabtree or Rcoop personally)
Cameron (am big on trying to get one of the top 4 TE's so woulda grabbed him in 5)
TB D
Justin Tucker

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07-26-2014 , 10:30 AM

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I agree that the Williams pick is iffy, but I don't think anyone in Dallas would be surprised to see him have a tremendous season now that Miles Austin is officially gone. He's the unquestioned #2 on a team with a QB who will still throw 30 TDs and 3800ish yards, and they'll be throwing almost every game with their putrid D. It's a nice situation for him.

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07-26-2014 , 04:41 PM

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Cheers for any help, I only just did the draft so no idea if the mock is up or not.

Before I look at spoilers. Overall tho I really don't like it.

I like Stacy at 2.11 as I like him way more than any other RB left. I'd rather take Stacy then whoever is left between Alshon/Cobb then take a WR are risk Stacy being taken and get left with Martin. And yeah, I like Alshon/Cobb over Nelson.

The Gore pick is meh. He has a crowded list of guys behind him (Hyde, Lattimore, Hunter etc). Don't see him getting that many carries. I hate myself for saying this but maybe take TRich there? Also think Roddy/TY > Crabs... maybe even Percy > Crabs. I think Roddy is being really underrated this year. People look at his awful performance last year and forget that he was played injured and had no Julio to take some pressure off.

Don't like taking an RB4 in r7 in a 2rb/no flex league before you have a WR4/QB1/TE1.

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07-26-2014 , 05:18 PM

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I appreciate the comments, but fwiw the draft was for 3WR 2RB, but we are playing 2 2 and a flex, so that is a slight difference maker I guess.

Would have taken Roddy over Crabtree, but Nelsen and Roddy would have shared a bye. FWIW, I don't fully understand how to weight bye weeks into strategy, but I am almost certain having the same byes is a direct way to a bad time.

With Hunter doing his ACL should Gore still be not a go at that spot?

Cheers for the help.

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07-26-2014 , 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ashley12

With Hunter doing his ACL should Gore still be not a go at that spot?

we touched on this a bit in the general thread, hunter was probably going to be the third back behind hyde anyway, wouldn't think it would affect gore's totals much. doubt it'd bump gore's carries by more than 20 over the season which is like half a point a game

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07-26-2014 , 06:07 PM

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I assume it's still noPPR? Doesn't make it as bad then. You should try to find a mock that fits it though. I think ESPN has some 2/2/1 mocks... may be PPR though.

Meh on the bye week issue but imo you're looking at it really wrong. You avoid Roddy because he has the same bye as Nelson, but then draft Crabs who has the same bye as Gore? Either way that's still two starters on a bye and I don't see that being a reason for Crabs > Roddy. Plus, you could have taken Percy/TY and completely avoided that issue. And FWIW I'd almost rather have all my players have the same bye and just sacrifice a loss one week then have that 4-5 week string where each week you have 1-2 byes.

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07-26-2014 , 06:50 PM

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Bye week I meant because they play the same position (Logically same position byes suck more than different positions because of how deep you have to go into your depth to cover, but if I am missing something here then I am all ears). Taking Harvin does make more sense though I guess, though as I made basically zero future plans with picks other than making sure to get Stacy at 23.

Anyway, to make this all moot, I realise I have drafted out of the wrong position anyway (Im 2/10 and 8/12, all 2/2/1 noPPR) so all that means is I can make brand new mistakes on the next one.

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07-26-2014 , 07:36 PM

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http://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/draft/2232894

Mock to prepare for YPLs (2rb/3wr noPPR)

Usually good going RB/WR/WR/WR in these but Gronk at 30 seems like solid value. Probably should have snagged Ebron at the 10/11 turn since I think he could be this years Cameron. Would be good insurance for Gronk and/or good trade bait if he explodes.

Kinda screwed myself by having my RB1/RB2 share the same bye but meh.

Also I'm assuming Lynch stops holding out and is good to go week 1. I probably go Foster over him instead if there's still any doubt once we get closer to kickoff.

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07-26-2014 , 07:38 PM

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Meh. I don't think that makes a huge difference. It's not like it would really decimate you. Even if you had Roddy/Nelson, that means on their bye you start some combo of Williams/Evans/Cooper. Not ideal, but you can get by for a week.

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07-26-2014 , 10:20 PM

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Interesting to see Julio taken so high, do you mind sharing your thoughts? I just read that the guy has a metal pin in his foot (article wasn't clear if it has since been taken out) and they had to do experimental type surgery to help ensure it heals correctly as that side of the foot gets the least amount of blood. We all need to wait for camp/pre season I think.

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07-26-2014 , 10:57 PM

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Like it overall, but Dez/AJ>Julio imo, but I understand. I know you only start 2 RB, but Tate/SJax is a bit risky, I think you should take Freeman as insurance to solidify the RB spot.

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07-26-2014 , 11:17 PM

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I like Julio a lot. I'd like to see where he was in the WR rankings before he went down. As I recall, he was GOATing it up. Definitely depends on what happens before the season starts.

And yeah, probably should have taken Freeman for insurance over Hyde.

As for RB, yeah, probably should go RB/RB at the 5/6 turn. I'm usually fine going RB/WR/WR/WR/RB, but when a TE get thrown in there, I should probably still grab a RB in r5/r6 to make sure I have a solid RB2. There will be a fine WR3 left at the 7/8 turn. I could have went RB/RB at 5/6 and still ended up with two of Williams/Watkins/Wayne/Sanders

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07-26-2014 , 11:22 PM

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I'm fine with WR/RB at 5/6, in 3WR/2RB, I'd rather have more WR depth then RB, and just solidify my 3 RB's with handcuff's, like Freeman/Michael (since West's too high to grab imo)

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07-26-2014 , 11:46 PM

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Seeing a ton of people in mocks going with one of Woodhead, Sproles, Rice, Jennings, MJD, Richardson as their RB2 (after a start like WR/WR/TE/RB). I think of that bunch only Jennings could be a true RB2. Everybody else is gonna be by matchup at best.

Anyone want to hazard a guess on a stat line for Jennings? I think he winds up being the value pick of his round.

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07-27-2014 , 03:51 AM

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Starting a brand new dynasty league this year, where we will be keeping 15 each year, from our 20man in-season rosters. The draft will be auction, with 12 teams. Any insight on a decent draft strategy for this type of league? It will be a .5ppr, everything else is standard.

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07-27-2014 , 05:41 AM

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Anyone want to hazard a guess on a stat line for Jennings? I think he winds up being the value pick of his round.

I like him a lot too. His 2014 line depends on his usage and opportunity. If he plays all year I'd say 800 ruyds, 8ish TD's is his floor. He did have 4.5 ypc over 160 carries in Oakland last year, with a smattering of receptions. Very serviceable RB2/flex numbers.

Ceiling? Next Michael Turner.

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07-27-2014 , 06:14 PM

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1. Adrian Peterson (Min - RB)
2. Le'Veon Bell (Pit - RB)
3. Julius Thomas (Den - TE)
4. Roddy White (Atl - WR)
5. Matthew Stafford (Det - QB)
6. Kendall Wright (Ten - WR)
7. Golden Tate (Det - WR)
8. Joique Bell (Det - RB)
9. Kansas City (KC - DEF)
10. Terrance Williams (Dal - WR)
11. Mike Evans (TB - WR)
12. Fred Jackson (Buf - RB)
13. Tyler Eifert (Cin - TE)
14. Kenny Stills (NO - WR)
15. Blair Walsh (Min - K)

What do we think? Reached on JT. Panicked and KC was auto pick when I wasn't paying attention.

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07-27-2014 , 06:36 PM

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You actually managed to give us the least information possible in terms of being able to help you here.

What spot did you pick from? How many people? What scoring system? My initial guess is you drafted somewhere like...4th?

What I can already tell you is that KC D is the 9th is a spew, Joique in the 8th is nice value, and I probably draft a backup QB before a backup TE if my TE1 is Julius autostart Thomas.

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07-27-2014 , 06:37 PM

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Without knowing PPR/non, and how many RB/WR, and # of teams, it's hard to say

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07-27-2014 , 06:39 PM

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3rd pick 10 Teams PPR, RBRBWRWRWR

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07-27-2014 , 06:41 PM

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3rd pick ten teams 3 WR Ppr

I'm prob taking Forte over AP in PPR at #3 just based on the scoring format and their ages. But I doubt it's a big mistake. Otherwise pretty much what my counts and his comments said already. Some good value in there, but don't take KC there. Would also be curious to know what WR's you left on the board where you took White.

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07-27-2014 , 07:41 PM

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AP over Forte in PPR is meh.

Stafford seems like spew there.

Waiting till round 6 and 7 to draft your WR2 and WR3 when you must start 3 is also bad.

TWill/Evans/FJax are nice value

Eifert/Stills not so much.

Don't draft a kickah

edit - Also I like Roddy this year but not enough to make him my WR1

QB - Stafford is fine, but feels like bad value. I'd rather grab Cutlah/Romo/etc in the 8th.
WR - Pretty below average.
RB - Starters are above avergae but depth blows
TE - Good obv

Overall the team is below average.

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07-27-2014 , 08:29 PM

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So my league is switching to an auction draft this year.

14 team league, QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/Flex/TE, 0ppr

I've done a couple mocks now, one where I went big on a couple players and one where I tried to save money for the middle stages. Thoughts on these two teams and which one you like more? I've put in the auction values in brackets

QB - Rivers (2), Smith (1)
RB - Forte (66), Jackson (15), Miller (5), Pierce (1)
WR - Green (54), Marshall (48), Watkins (2), Austin (1), Jordan Matthews (1)
TE - Clay (1), Finley (1)

QB - Luck (19), Brady (12)
RB - Sankey (28), Gerhardt (26), Vereen (22), Miller (12), West (1)
WR - Marshall (44), Watkins (5), Wright (2), Austin (1)
TE - Gronk (23), Reed (2)

Also any general auction advice would be appreciated.

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07-27-2014 , 08:57 PM

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Team 1

Rivers for $2 is good value, I think he will be a below average start but still useful. RB core is meh. Should have probably spent a $1 on Davonte to backup SJax. Pierce for $1 is nice. Also, was $66 standard for the top RBs? Feels like a lot. Green/Marhsall is obv elite but I may aim for a WR just below that tier to save $5-$10 an get a decent WR3. Watkins/Matthews have good upside and I'm curious how Miles will do in Cleveland. TE is bad. Is finely even playing this year. Didn't GB draft two TEs?

Team 2

Don't like getting two QBs in that tier. I'd rather just spend $30ish on one of the big three. RB core is pretty ok, Miller for $12 seems like too much. WR core is meh. I like the upside of Watkins/Wright but if one of them doesn't work out you have no depth. TE is nice.

Overall I like team 1 better I think