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Old 12-15-2011, 04:08 PM   #31
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Re: What kind of live player do you hate the most?

The person who always has to ask the dealer ''how much was it again'' after spending 5 mins looking at their cards: They always fold.
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Old 12-15-2011, 06:34 PM   #32
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Re: What kind of live player do you hate the most?

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The person who always has to ask the dealer ''how much was it again'' after spending 5 mins looking at their cards: They always fold.
Oh dude, that's totally me.
My bad.
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:49 AM   #33
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The person who always has to ask the dealer ''how much was it again'' after spending 5 mins looking at their cards: They always fold.
I use that as a false tell against (what I call) level 2 thinkers when I have the nuts and have to call a bet with players left to act.

For the most part you are right though...they always fold. If they ask that and raise your middle set is no good.
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:53 AM   #34
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Re: What kind of live player do you hate the most?

ones with 50-80% vpips that run like gold!
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Old 12-16-2011, 10:33 PM   #35
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Re: What kind of live player do you hate the most?

The ones that yap too much but don't really listen. Like they're putting on a show. I keep it to myself though.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:46 AM   #36
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Re: What kind of live player do you hate the most?

I hate live players who are too serious, unfriendly, who help create a table atmosphere that is too serious so people try to play their best or nit it up as a result. This goes for both good and bad players who are too serious.

Live poker is supposed to be fun and friendly, because at 20-25 hands per hour it's hard enough to sit there for hours as it is, and if everyone's serious and unfriendly then it's just pure torture especially if you're running bad.
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Old 12-19-2011, 02:09 AM   #37
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Re: What kind of live player do you hate the most?

1. Nits
2. Fish that run like god
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Old 12-19-2011, 02:20 AM   #38
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Re: What kind of live player do you hate the most?

Old nits that fold and check back top two on rainbow boards. I don't have the time/we are not playing at the stakes where I can make decent money from these guys.

As far as attitude wise, I hate the young guys that talk about 3bet% and stuff like that at the table. I am 21 myself, but when I see these kid talking about fold equity and M ratio at the table I just shake my head. My standard response when anyone tries to talk to me about SPR/M/odds/good play/bad play etc is to say I don't understand.

2 nights ago at 2/5 I had a guy ask me ask what my opinion was on an "optimal 3bet % in LLSNL"... Kid was almost certaintly a 2p2er too, so why on earth would we ever discuss that on saturday night infront of fish? Just told him, I don't know what that means. He responded "yeah sure" and he didn't say a word to me the rest of the session. Felt kind of like in his mind I was being rude, but I just had no interest in discussing that sort of thing openly.
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Old 12-19-2011, 02:15 PM   #39
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The guy that's trying to talk to you like every 5 minutes when you clearly have both earphones in and ipod on max!
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:43 AM   #40
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Old nits that fold and check back top two on rainbow boards. I don't have the time/we are not playing at the stakes where I can make decent money from these guys.

As far as attitude wise, I hate the young guys that talk about 3bet% and stuff like that at the table. I am 21 myself, but when I see these kid talking about fold equity and M ratio at the table I just shake my head. My standard response when anyone tries to talk to me about SPR/M/odds/good play/bad play etc is to say I don't understand.

2 nights ago at 2/5 I had a guy ask me ask what my opinion was on an "optimal 3bet % in LLSNL"... Kid was almost certaintly a 2p2er too, so why on earth would we ever discuss that on saturday night infront of fish? Just told him, I don't know what that means. He responded "yeah sure" and he didn't say a word to me the rest of the session. Felt kind of like in his mind I was being rude, but I just had no interest in discussing that sort of thing openly.
Interesting I don't like those guys at all but I do like having them at the table -- they end up being incredibly exploitable because they play like they are "supposed to" most of the time.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:46 AM   #41
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Interesting I don't like those guys at all but I do like having them at the table -- they end up being incredibly exploitable because they play like they are "supposed to" most of the time.
Meaning the nits or the young guys?

I'm assuming the nits, and while yes they are exploitable as can be, the hands/hr in live makes it hard to do it for a decent winrate. Most of my money comes from fish overcalling draws/pairs when they are clearly beat. And people randomly bluffing cause they want a thrill.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:25 AM   #42
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Re: What kind of live player do you hate the most?

I think he meant the young guy who could play. I go after them when I'm in position because they're observant. I can't level a nit but these guys are usually ripe for it.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:52 AM   #43
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I think he meant the young guy who could play. I go after them when I'm in position because they're observant. I can't level a nit but these guys are usually ripe for it.
Exactly -- nits are like rocks in the stream. The money just flows around them and they take up space.
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:35 AM   #44
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shortstacking nits
Really? I'd imagine they are one of the most easy players to play against.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:49 PM   #45
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Re: What kind of live player do you hate the most?

I don't like players that berate other players in a belligerent manner. I don't mean people like Hellmuth, he's just funny to watch. I mean players that have that posture about them like "I dare you to raise me". They throw their cards when they miss, kick the table when someone sucks out on them and yells at them for set mining.

Crap like that always happens to me at casinos that aren't in Vegas. Vegas just has such tight security, safe streets and quick pit bosses that they're on to that poor behavior in seconds.

AC is pretty good tho...

I don't really mind it online, i just mute players if they annoy me.
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