Going to post the hand and the convo with BOL support then we can discuss.
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NL Holdem $0.1(BB)
SB ($6.83)
HERO ($35.66)
UTG ($29.24)
HJ ($13.38)
CO ($18.73)
BTN ($10.5)
Dealt to Hero J
J
UTG Folds, HJ Folds,
CO Raises To $0.25 (Rem. Stack: 18.48), BTN Folds,
SB Calls $0.2 (Rem. Stack: 6.58),
HERO Raises To $1.3 (Rem. Stack: 34.26),
CO Calls $1.15 (Rem. Stack: 17.33),
SB Calls $1.15 (Rem. Stack: 5.43)
Flop ($4.20) 7
6
3
SB Checks,
HERO Bets $2.85 (Rem. Stack: 31.41),
CO Calls $2.85 (Rem. Stack: 14.48),
SB $5.43 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0.00),
HERO Calls $2.58 (Rem. Stack: 28.83),
CO Calls $2.58 (Rem. Stack: 11.90)
Turn ($20.49) 7
6
3
8
HERO Checks,
CO $11.9 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0.00),
HERO Calls $11.9 (Rem. Stack: 16.93)
River ($44.29) 7
6
3
8
3
SB shows 8
7
CO shows Q
Q
CO wins $43.29
Tim: Hello. I am disputing the results of a hand I just played on table #
Tim: the hand # is
David: Thank you one, moment.
Tim: When player B went all-in on the flop and the action was back on me I was only allowed to call or fold. I wanted to shove all-in but that action was not available.
David: I will be right with you...
Tim: Thank you.
David: I am not sure, it is showing me that you folded Pre-flop.
David: After Player B called $0.25.
Tim: I raised from the big blind to $1.40
Tim: Player A called, Player B called. on flop Player B checked, I bet, Player A called, Player B shoved all-in, and I was only left with the option to call or fold. I should have been allowed to raise all-in myself at that point.
David: If the "full bet" rule is in effect, as it usually is in No-Limit games, and the amount of an all-in is less than the minimum bet or the full amount of the previous raise, it's now a "real" raise and doesn't reopen the betting. If the "half bet" rule is in play if the amount is over half the minimum bet it is a raise and reopens the action.
Eg. Player 1 bets $50 into the pot and the player that acts next goes all in for $65.
As the extra $15 is not enough to constitute a "full raise" on Player 1's original bet, a third player can still raise instead of call as he has not yet had the option to raise.
Player 1 would then be able to call or raise the amount of Player 3's raise.
If the third player just calls, however, Player 1 can't re-raise as it would essentially be re-raising his own original bet. Player 1 can only call the extra $15 from both players and would contest an extra side pot of $30 with Player 3.
The main pot would have $50 from all three players in it for a total of $150.
David: We use "Full Bet"
Tim: Ok. His all-in was more than the minimum bet during that round.
David: And so the pot had to be matched, yes.
Tim: So his bet being MORE than the minimum bet SHOULD re open betting? Which it did, giving me the options to call or fold.
Tim: But why would "go all in" be removed as an action?
David: Thank you for waiting. I'll be with you in just a moment...
David: Because you already had the option to raise and also, the player's all-in was not enough on your raise. Meaning you would still be reraising your own bet.
Tim: Ok. I think I understand what you're saying.
Tim: I never encountered a situation where I could act but options were greyed out, unless all other players were all-in before me.
David: I have once or a few times.
David: Also never knew what going on.
Tim: Ok thank you for the explanation. take care
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If anyone can explain differently what exactly happened I would appreciate it. From what I gather Player B's shove was slightly less than 2x my bet size which only allowed me to call/fold but not make another bet. And "closed betting round" doesn't prevent calling/folding necessarily.
If I knew better I may have bet 2.20 into the 4.40 pot which would have met the "full bet" rule and 4b-shoved the flop; yet I should have actually bet larger in either case with the flop draws present. It's the weirdest hand I've ever played that's for sure.