Just curious, is there a point where your chip stack is big enough that you defend against a shove that is maybe 5-10 BBs vs folding with ATC? My personal belief has always been to not make easy chips available, but it seems that there may be a point where the % of stack widens calling range so much that it is correct to call it.
Assuming you're in the BB, facing a short-stack shove doesn't require any use of MDF calculations. You call based on pot odds and equity. Either your hand makes money against villain's range (you call) or it doesn't (you fold).
Note: ICM considerations can have a strong effect on the profitability of your hand in a tournament, so it's not just direct pot odds that you need to consider. The overall idea is simple though: Call if it's profitable to do so.
Thanks, I think I was trying to over analyze or find some formulation that could justify it. I'd just as soon make a short stack earn their way back as opposed to rolling the dice on an ATC call.
Thanks, I think I was trying to over analyze or find some formulation that could justify it. I'd just as soon make a short stack earn their way back as opposed to rolling the dice on an ATC call.
+1 you can call wider but not too wide. If you wanted to do a GTO call, then defend the ranges profitable against the published Nash push/fold charts. For me, i would just want a decent hand, and fold the trash.
Size of your stack is nothing when it is cash, in tournament when your stack is big it means ICM influense is low.
You can use MDF here when you expect V to have reasonable push range and nobody else is involved. Remember that your stack size only can make ICM presure so low that you use chip EV, any call under that cannot be justified by stack size.
