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Originally Posted by robert_utk
Ohhhh. Maybe I am misunderstanding.
When I read 4b/fold I read " 4bet raise, but fold if opponent 5b/jams."
You could either raise or fold your entire range and be good to go.
I just dont want to 4bet AK, QQ, and JJ but fold pre to a 5bet jam...
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Pretty sure Zkesic means the same thing.
The problem with 4 bet folding sometimes is how sure you have to be that a 5 bet shove is always AA/KK.
So according to my phone's equity calculator QQ has 18% equity preflop vs AA/KK and 56.3% equity vs AK.
(6/(6+X))*.18+(X/(6+X))*.563 >= 1/3
.18*6+.563*X >= 1/3*X + 2
.2297*X >= .92
X > = 4 (rounded from 4.005)
So if villain only has 4 combos (or 1/4 of the AK combos) when he shoves for a pot sized bet then you have a break even call. Note the equity is slightly different for just the AKS combos (54.1%) so if it was just those 4 combos you may need slightly more combos say 5. Plus you'll need probably 1 additional combo for rake so rounding up to 5 seems prudent.
Any way, as you can see it's hard to be so certain that villain NEVER has enough AK combos to make calling off with QQ profitable even if villain ONLY has AA/KK and AK in his range. Factor in JJ and QQ for chops and you start folding a large amount of equity.
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