well ive always avoided los angelos cause i hate the way they do the rake. and ive always decided to wait to go back til i have a much bigger roll. but ive dropped a $7400 roll to $3200 due to damned VBJ machines, etc and i want to go somewhere they DONT HAVE MACHINES and only poker. only because i got no discipline to walk by without playing.

but i dont see how any games would be beatable the way the pot is normally under $10-20 and they are taking $6 out. im referrring to the $40-100 1-2 NL games, and im not sure the $2-3 NL is any better or is it? i dont like fixed limit much unless its for stud or o8. what do u recommend can be beat on such a low roll?

now in vegas if someone had a cheap room and a ton of discipline to stick to only poker they could play 3 yrs on 3000 and never go broke and run it way up. ashamed of myself for not having that discipline.

i need a plan, i need to leave in 2-3 days before i touch another machine

You need to question whether you have the discipline to play poker for a living.

well ive been doing it 19 yrs. too late to stop now.

19 yrs of playing poker for living and u have 3k roll? Interesting.

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Thats pretty sick rake. Jus play online?

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its now only a $1800 roll and i still plan to go there in a couple days--come on low stakes players give some real advice as to what to play with such little money

$1800 isn't a big enough roll to play anything professionally... I mean you could play 3/6 limit with it or if you like living dangerously maybe double that, but I don't know if you could even make more than minimum wage doing it. If you're taking living expenses out of your roll I'd say it's impossible.

well the game i was thinking about was the $40-100 NL08 at hawaaiann gardens--wanted to see that game. maybe $40-100 NL at commerce would work too?

Honestly I have no idea.

But seriously - are you planning on living off the proceeds of this? Because that's a totally different question than "what game is beatable with a $1800 bankroll".

well not entirely--i do get SSI--but wont be receiving it again til dec 1. they claim i made too much the month before to receive any Nov 1--and yet i no longer have that money. gave it all back to the casino--but ive been playing too many years and im too stubborn--not giving up gambling everyday all day, its all i ever do. just wanna be there instead of vegas so im not near any machines.

What are your expenses going to be like? How much will you need to withdraw from your bankroll every week? How many hours do you expect to play per week?

It's hard to imagine that you're really serious because you're not even providing the kind of information you'd need to figure out how much of a bankroll you need - which might mean you don't even realize that you need to take these factors into account?

well ive been homeless many times in late 1990s to early 2005 so i wont sweat too much-will just see how things go, if im not winning, i'll just not get a room and sleep outdoors in the richest wealthiest safest area of los angelos i can find on the busline. i just wanna make sure none of this last $1800 goes to these dammned VBJ machines and that i get a chance to try beating that NLO8 game at hawaaian gardens ive never got a chance to check out. I'm a little unique, i dont think like others/.


i am sure, if it wasnt for my discipline problems id be better off staying in vegas playing at bills/osheas

actually that wasnt recently--since i started getting ssi in 2007 ive not been homeless--that was in the old days when 1-5 stud was the main game--which as we know isnt beatable for more than $33-75 a day on average.

once i started playing $1-2 NL live, i started averaging about $350-500 a week for 50-75 hours play a week. thats not much, but its a whole lot better than in my distant past. my bankroll aint been under $2000 til now in a very long time.

this.

100% serious.

grind online imo

find a friend, use their computer, depo $600 on ftp, clear the $600 bonus playing cash game, and friggin pwn online

you really are a bunch of ****ing *******s. Laughing about a guy who hasnt a big choice at all is just so cheap. He is playing for 19 years and knows gamblers anonymous for sure, why are you telling him?

Some of you will end up the same after this online poker madness implodes like it has been risen out of nowhere.

You might laugh at me, but what would happen to you if economy continues to crash and nobody had any money to play? Is that such an unrealistic scenario?

@sevencard2003 i would try to play online for low stakes. On FullTiltPoker or Pokerstars you dont have a casino, so no temptation for you. Invest some $ in a cardrunnersaccount or deucescracked, too so you get familiar with online play.

You cant make a living out of it, but perhaps it will help you build a roll. Dont know much what i should say to you what helps. But cant imagine 1/2 live is so much better?

if you could learn to play 4 tables at once and make 2 BB/hour per table on NL100 you could make 80$ each 10 hours, 600$ per week.

That would perhaps be better than 1-2 live? But of course you would need to invest recourses first and actually i dont know if you can beat online, many live players are struggling. Perhaps you know someone at your local casino who is playing succesfully online? Ask him if he thinks you could win.

Alright that has nothing to do with you orginal question, hope it still helps.

10 hours of online poker a day is an insane ordeal. 4 tables is not many, but to someone coming off of live this # of hands would wear him down and he would lose all the $ so fast.

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The first step in getting help is acknowledging the symptoms and admitting that there is a problem. A 12-step program, such as Gamblers Anonymous, can be effective.

Take your poker goggles off.

all i know is that ive found winning live far easier than winning online. and win lot more. i won very little playing online from home. but as much as ive dropped, im not even comfortable buying in $100 anymore. mostly been buying in $20 in the 50c-1 game on the strip. cant really risk losing my case money. and sold my online money for cash to play live with. at least ive not touched a single machine since making this post. i doubt the game at osheas or bills is beatable over $50 a day but won about twice that,

just wondering if i could in LA also. i should go home to ks, but did wanna check out that game before i do

You sound like a real die hard gambler, just go now while you can still afford the bus fare. Best of luck.

I would seek help if I were you. Playing the slots is a losing game for sure..

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