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12-09-2016 , 08:11 PM
I have a low success rate 3betting and 4betting.

3bet success = 40%
4bet success = 35%

As we often need 60%+ folds to show profit with our bluffs does this mean I should stop 3bet/4bet bluffing or atleast tone it down?

Ofcourse if they play fit or fold postflop I can still 3bet/4bet.

But success rate of CB in 3bet pots is only 37%...

Hope someone has a god answer to this!
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12-09-2016 , 08:12 PM
Also its very hard to play vs such a wide continuing range postflop
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12-10-2016 , 07:08 AM
If villain folds 60% of the time, that's still pretty good for you. Part of your EV comes from fold equity and part from hand equity, which is why you shouldn't 3-bet total junk unless villain is folding at an exploitably high frequency, such that you make money in the long run even if you check-fold 100% of flops. You might be able to improve your 3-betting ranges, or your post-flop play, but I assume you're still making lots of money if you run the filter "3-bet pre-flop = true". If you don't, then you have a problem.
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12-10-2016 , 02:01 PM
Yeah i guess. I will check the wr in that spot.
I will probably have a positive wr. But, most probably comes from recreational players.
Most of the regs have this kind of stats, Low Ft3b etc.
Is there anyway i can filter so i get vs regs.
It doesnt need to be 100% regs, but majority.

I guess the lower fold stats the more pots i need to win postflop and vise versa.
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12-11-2016 , 01:51 PM
With HEM you can make alias, put there a number of recreational players/regs.
PT cannot do it at least do not know how to do it.

When you face low fTo3b always can switch to linear 3b range and make money postflop.
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12-13-2016 , 04:50 PM
Preflop folds is just one part of the equation. You still get to play postflop and when you are the preflop aggressor you have the stronger range. Any hands that get to play in the same range as AA-QQ benefit immensely from it. Also you have to remember that the main reason you 3bet bluffs in the first place is to increase the value of AA-QQ.

Ask yourself what would happen to the ev of AA if you never 3bet bluffed.
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12-14-2016 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by getmeoffcompletely
Preflop folds is just one part of the equation. You still get to play postflop and when you are the preflop aggressor you have the stronger range. Any hands that get to play in the same range as AA-QQ benefit immensely from it. Also you have to remember that the main reason you 3bet bluffs in the first place is to increase the value of AA-QQ.

Ask yourself what would happen to the ev of AA if you never 3bet bluffed.
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