Hi everyone,

I have been reading Professional No Limit Hold'em by Miller and there's a lot of discussion about SPR. My typical winning strategy consists of playing tight and raising limped pots to ideally going heads up against 2 or 3 players.

However, as stack sizes begin to cross the 150-200BB range, raising and creating awkward Sprs with top pair/over pair hands and committing against players who limp call is challenging to me.

My last session I elected to try a strategy where I would not raise so large to eliminate weaker limped players (with hands like KJ, ATs, KQs, AKo) , but rather to either call behind or raise to a size that I know players will still call with but create an SPR around 5-7.

My question is

a.) it better to create large pots with hands that are going to miss the flop 2/3 of the time and hit a limp call range stronger? Or should maybe I adjust to loose limp callers by raising larger?

b.) should I stick to my original strategy of just raising my open size + 1bb per limper and expose my self post flop to being stacked / committed with a 1 pair type hand? My issue is that by raising so large and folding on the flop I am violating the rule of "putting in a third of my stack and then folding" when I miss the flop or vs a short stacker.

Thanks.

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Hmm it seems that you want larger Pot sizes for flops with hands that make tptk+ and smaller pot sizes with hands that flop draws. So you would want to 3b 4b more with high value hands and flat more with draw hands. Also I think +1 BB per limper is not enough, at a loose table.


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^^^^ nvm that i know there is more to this than that^^^^^


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Ok the more I think about SPR in general it seems like only an approximate of good overall strategy and overly simplistic. Basically, tptk in position is usually worth a stack off versus a smaller stack, you are committed to call a check shove. This is usually sorta correct, but easily exploitable by any good draw from the small stack and any good reg that puts "SPR player" notes on you. Thoughts???


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A complete strat always should account for how deep your opponent is and what the odds look like for both players.


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In the book, Miller talks about wanting an SPR below 13 for top pair hands because a pot sized bet on flop and turn should get you all in on the river.

Having SPR around 13 however makes it so that if you bet flop and turn in this manner there will still be a pot size behind on the river making it so that you might get raised on the river and lose to a better hand or worse end up folding your hand after having invested so much of your stack already.

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The hand doesn't end on the flop and showing down isn't the only way to win money in poker. It sounds like you are already adjusting your raise size for limpers.

Being committed or not is a combination of factors. SPR is a better guideline for bet size planning than it is as your only strategy for how to play certain hands.

Just based on this post it sounds like you are uncomfortable playing post flop which is going to be terrible for you in today's games.



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