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Just an idea: a different kind of table selection Just an idea: a different kind of table selection

10-19-2011 , 04:31 PM
This post is a little to good if you know what I mean, Much respect!
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10-19-2011 , 05:03 PM
Lol I used to do this vs regs that pissed me off.
(either by slow rolling me, by berating fish in chat or being a douche and typing 'ty' after they win a pot)
I would get my 'revenge' by taking their game apart completely and destroying them.
I would also plan in advance how they would counter me once they noticed i was exploiting them and then exploit that too.

A few regs were so predictable I could literally call their exact hand strength with a high accuracy given the line they took.

I assumed much more people do this so I've always tried to keep as low a profile as possible since i didn't want people doing the same to me

Lock thread plz!

Last edited by LunaEqualsLuna; 10-19-2011 at 05:11 PM.
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10-19-2011 , 06:31 PM
Funny, i last night as i fell asleep i thought of the beginnings of this, basically, the find regs who multitable and take apart their game and start targeting them. You took it and made it real with an incredibly detailed description of how to do this. I thank you very deeply for that. I've started my move from HU Lim to FR NL and I'm at the beginning of my journey, studying endlessly and trying to put in hours when i can to get a better and better feel for the games at micro limits. When I had the idea, I didn't think I knew precisely what to look for but you've helped tremendously in fleshing it out for me. There's no way I'm good enough yet to really put it to work but i will begin the process right away and try and learn from what happens. If you ever decide to coach, let me know right away!
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10-20-2011 , 05:37 AM
I am initially sceptical, although you make a very good argument for your case. I play at lower limits than NL$200, which may explain my view-point. Of course, what you are saying is that this strategy doesn't just allow you to beat the target reg; but that your winnings from the mark will be greater than they would be from a random player.

At NL$50 so much of the money comes from spew monkeys that I'm not sure it would be worth guarenteeing atleast 1 winning reg on every table you play. However, when I next massively multi-table $200 I may try this.

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Having considered it further I think the general principal could apply at any limit, without requiring half of the steps outlined by OP. It boils down to digging deep into the data that you hold on the regs you regular face. This sounds like it could be time well spent.

Last edited by Kamawoop; 10-20-2011 at 05:44 AM.
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10-20-2011 , 09:12 AM
Interesting post.

While this might be a novel exercise to try out, it seems to me that even without any table selectin at all, one will normally, and quickly rack up a large hand history sample on all and every reg that plays. It just isn't necessary to table select in the way that you suggest to achieve this IMO.

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Originally Posted by Ronin Talken
3. Notice that he is probably table selecting for you. There will be fish at these tables, just like there normally would. You really lose nothing by doing this. .
The average reg:fish ratio will actually be higher when table selecting in this manner.
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10-20-2011 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Clicken
Interesting post.

While this might be a novel exercise to try out, it seems to me that even without any table selectin at all, one will normally, and quickly rack up a large hand history sample on all and every reg that plays. It just isn't necessary to table select in the way that you suggest to achieve this IMO.



The average reg:fish ratio will actually be higher when table selecting in this manner.
I believe that Ronin is suggesting searching the target regs tables is so that you can quickly get 10k hands on him that way - like in a few days, whereas you can put in 500k hands and still have much less than that on most of the regs at your limit - at least at micro stakes where the player pool is huge.
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10-20-2011 , 03:59 PM
Of course the target will also quickly get 10k hands on OP. OP has a significant edge, because they have been studying the marks play in detail.

However I also think this could apply equally to other regs, without any specific targetting. Spend an hour, or two, researching all the players you play most often. If the conclusions from that analysis are correct; then you will be better prepared to face these players in future. With the added bonus, that they are less likely to be better prepared themselves.
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10-20-2011 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamawoop
Of course the target will also quickly get 10k hands on OP. OP has a significant edge, because they have been studying the marks play in detail.

However I also think this could apply equally to other regs, without any specific targetting. Spend an hour, or two, researching all the players you play most often. If the conclusions from that analysis are correct; then you will be better prepared to face these players in future. With the added bonus, that they are less likely to be better prepared themselves.
True. Just less exploitative.

The true statement is that you never run out of fish, as long as you invest the time necessary to dissect your opponents.

If you do this, though, you can almost be certain that your overall skill edge will increase. While you may invest more time for a break-even short-term, your long-term results will benefit considerably. The leaks you find and exploit won't be specific to a single villain, but actually the exact leaks you'll look to exploit in opponents at higher stakes.
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06-22-2017 , 01:20 PM
Thank you!
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