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07-06-2015 , 03:42 PM
I want to see how you think MTTs are different from cash, and the advantages of both for a player and a human. I am considering only continuing one of these routes and see cash as the advantageous choice in my position.
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07-07-2015 , 07:45 AM
online you should play mtts because you get a 5 minute break and the players are worse.

live you should play cash because you get a break whenever and variance for mtts is insane
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07-07-2015 , 09:18 AM
oh thats genius. not just the question u want answered but the format u want the answers in. u go girl!
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07-07-2015 , 06:22 PM
If u ever saw the documentary 'Nosebleeds', these guys explain it pretty well. Although MTT's variance is massive, you'll never forget the times you ran very deep in a huge tournament. Whereas cashgames can often times start to feel like a chore.

I do think cash games will ultimately make you a way better poker player than mtt's.
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07-07-2015 , 06:42 PM
Dealing with the ups and downs being an MTT player are much tougher. If you are a winning MTT player you can still go through very long streaks without cashing due to variance. In cash games results will be more consistent (obv. still with downswings). If you choose to take the MTT route, you need to be financially disciplined and figure out what you can afford to spend each month and stick to it no matter what you're recent results are. It can be easy to get carried away after a huge score in a tournament and expect that it will happen again. Either way, discipline is key to be successful in life/poker as a cash or MTT pro.
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07-09-2015 , 01:15 AM
Well first off, you always got a 100bb in cash, so you can put pressure on to the max. Tourneys is a simply science....
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07-11-2015 , 07:27 PM
Variance = Luck
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07-11-2015 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by chrollo
Variance = Luck
What is it with people using the Poker Theory forum to bump up their post counts with these bull**** posts?

Stop it
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07-11-2015 , 11:31 PM
no icm in cash games, icm isn't super heavy in mtts opposed to sngs but it is present in mtts, especially on bubbles and final tables.

for instance, if there are three players left in an mtt, one guy with million chips, 2nd guy with million chips, third player with 500 chips. let's say for simplicities sake the top three payouts are relative to a normal mtts payouts. well, if player A with a million chips shoves all in into player B with a million chips (guy with 500 chips folded already), clearly player B can not call, not even with AA. how could he risk one million chips when he can jump a whole payout higher by simply waiting on 500 chips guy to bust?

contrarily, if it were a cash game, there are no payouts, every chip retains its value. now if a player a shoves 1 million chips(dollars) into player b who has aa, player b is snap calling.

could go more in depth but typing on an iPad. hope my hypothetical(extreme) shows you the difference among the two, comparing cash to tourney.

simply stated; in tournaments, other people's stacks have meaning, u have to be aware of other players stacks who have folded. in a cash game, this is not the case, we are only worried about our opponents stack size if we are in a hand together.
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07-12-2015 , 04:37 AM
Something non theory related is just the quality of life. Most the MTT players I know are generally pretty miserable unless they are running particularly hot. This probably has a lot to do with the nature of MTT having way more variance then grinding cash. Also as a cash player you have a bit more freedom in when you start and quit your session.
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07-12-2015 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
for instance, if there are three players left in an mtt, one guy with million chips, 2nd guy with million chips, third player with 500 chips.
This is easy snap call for the 2nd guy with AA in normal MTT payout structure.
But yeah the 2nd guy have to be very tight even if 1st guy shove 100%.
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07-12-2015 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mtgalex
This is easy snap call for the 2nd guy with AA in normal MTT payout structure.
But yeah the 2nd guy have to be very tight even if 1st guy shove 100%.
honestly having 1 million chips and 1 million chips vs 500, i figured AA would be a fold vs any two. I ran an icmizer simulation vs any two shove: i set payouts at 29% to first, 21% to second, and third getting 16.67777% of prize pool

If 500 chips folded from button and Sb shoved 1 million into our 1 million(us in BB) with 100% range, we were supposed to call 88-AA. I was quite surprised, i thought we would be much tighter
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07-12-2015 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
honestly having 1 million chips and 1 million chips vs 500, i figured AA would be a fold vs any two. I ran an icmizer simulation vs any two shove: i set payouts at 29% to first, 21% to second, and third getting 16.67777% of prize pool

If 500 chips folded from button and Sb shoved 1 million into our 1 million(us in BB) with 100% range, we were supposed to call 88-AA. I was quite surprised, i thought we would be much tighter
lets think logically here. if we're 3 handed at 1 milly, 1 milly and 500 chip stacks, we are going to be deep enough that the 500 chip stack is all in with an ante.
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07-12-2015 , 09:16 PM
its a hypothetical bro. there is no guarantee that he would be all in, lets think logically
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07-13-2015 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by clutch352
Something non theory related is just the quality of life. Most the MTT players I know are generally pretty miserable unless they are running particularly hot. This probably has a lot to do with the nature of MTT having way more variance then grinding cash. Also as a cash player you have a bit more freedom in when you start and quit your session.
Thisx1000

Having recently become a father I can't set aside 6-8 hours for tourneys, but can dip in and out of cash games when I have time.

Cash is WAAAAY more complicated, and more difficult imo.
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