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06-21-2017 , 11:48 AM
Title basically says it all. In Live cash games, it's generally considered to be rude and poor manner to hit and run.

*Random Unnecessary backstory*

I roll into 1-2 game with 3BI and an elderly lady sits to my left. She announces that she thought this table was 2-5 but is too lazy to change tables. First hand UTG she pops it up to 25. Everybody folds except the Button. She shows down with trash. This repeats periodically with her bloating the pot until everybody realize that she's just an action junky and doesn't care.

We all take turns trying to stack her. I end up trapping her with Pocket Aces in a straddled pot. I'm Cut off, somebody from MP raises 5$ straddle up to 15, I flat knowing she's prob going to bloat the pot some more, she pops it up to 100 with 4 people behind her, I shove and she calls with 5-8 suited. I take it down.

Anyways, I'm up 2x BI and the fish is gone. Still play well but get so many suck outs. I feel like the longer I play, the more I let variance catch up. Somebody flatting my value bets with q2 when I have pocket Aces and spikes a lucky 2 on river. King high flush vs straight flush. Pocket aces on a flop of trip 3s runs into A3 suited.

So, to remain profitable, should Poker players hit and run when they reach a certain session goal, ie (2x BI or play X hours)? Because we all hate variance....
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06-21-2017 , 11:53 AM
It's all one big session.
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06-21-2017 , 01:39 PM
You got pocket aces three times in one live cash session. Somebody fixing the deal?

In answer to your question...yes if you are weak deep stacked. Otherwise no.
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06-21-2017 , 03:51 PM
I actually got Pocket Aces 4 times that session, pocket Kings once. Jacks maybe 3x?

Good cards, just a lot of coolers near the end.

Which runs back into my original question/statement. Let's assume you're playing your A game through out your session and run hot early on. At what point do you dip out before the variance catches up?

Ie, me getting Aces but them only holding up and winning twice. Etc.

Hence. Hit and Run!

*edit

I'm sure plenty of the members here have seen people with monster stacks give it all back by the end of their session.
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06-21-2017 , 06:12 PM
If it's variance you're afraid of, there's no particular reason to leave.

If you play worse with a big stack, then you should leave.

Variance is going to "catch up to you" either this session or the next or the one after that. Variance doesn't, like, get reset every session, starting from scratch. It's all one long session.
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06-23-2017 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TheLegend27

I feel like the longer I play, the more I let variance catch up.


When you "feel" this way, sit out an orbit and double check yourself. If you still "feel" this way you must quit. Variance is not your enemy, you are your enemy.


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06-24-2017 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TheLegend27
So, to remain profitable, should Poker players hit and run when they reach a certain session goal, ie (2x BI or play X hours)? Because we all hate variance....
From mathematical point of view this makes zero sense. Variance will still exist in the next session.
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06-24-2017 , 08:33 AM
There is another reason to leave, fish lost and left.
When it's generally considered to be rude and poor manner to hit and run we should not do it. Maybe we could wait a while, asses the rest of the table and then say "my last orbit"?
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06-25-2017 , 06:59 AM
If you are a a reg and sitting with others, courtesy would be to sit for a bit. That doesn't mean you can't muck for the next 20 minutes. IF it is a 1/2 table, sounds like it is in the general pit, so you are probably sitting with a bunch of randoms and/or poker tourists. It would not be the same level of rudeness, but a short period of muck doesn't hurt if you are up big.

As mentioned above, "I'll have to get going, so I'm out on the button" is common.
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06-25-2017 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by a dewd

As mentioned above, "I'll have to get going, so I'm out on the button" is common.
I don't understand people who do this. Post their blinds and then leave on the button.

Doing that is giving up free hands. You should leave on your big blind.
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06-25-2017 , 10:31 AM
Unless it is a home game where you need an invite to come or a very, very small player pool, I'm getting up and leaving when I want without any prior warning.
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06-25-2017 , 10:47 AM
From a point of pure strategy, you should remain at a game where you have an edge (perhaps unless a game opens up where you have even more of an edge). Sometimes table dynamics change your edge e.g. you play poorly with deep stacks, you get tired or tilted. At any point where you're not expecting to profit from continuing to play you should leave.

From a practical perspective, it's often good to be liked and rarely good in and of itself to be disliked. Maybe because then the fish don't choose another table, maybe because you want to get invited back to the homegame. That's when you play a few orbits as a token gesture so people don't think of you as the hit and run guy. And also, in terms of improving as a player, you might want to actually play some sessions vs. better players or with deeper stacks.
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