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Is this EV calculation correct? Is this EV calculation correct?

04-25-2017 , 06:29 PM
Shove/Fold situation pre-flop:

EV = (Pot*Fold Success Rate %) + (Amount Won When Called*Equity) - (Amount Lost When Called*Equity)
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04-25-2017 , 06:48 PM
No.

I think modifying it to this works, assuming you use the correct "Amount Won" and "Amount Lost":

EV = (Pot*Fold Success Rate %) + ((Amount Won When Called*Win Percentage) - (Amount Lost When Called*Loss Percentage) * Fold Failure Rate %)

But I did that real quick - If anyone sees a mistake, please correct.



More detailed, this should work also (although I did this pretty quickly - if anyone notices a mistake, please correct):

EV = (P * FE) + ((TP * E - SA) * (1 - FE))

where:

P = Current Pot Size;
FE = Percentage opponent folds to hero's shove;
TP = Pot Size if opponent calls hero's shove;
E = Hero's equity when opponent calls hero's shove; and
SA = The amount of hero's shove.


Or closer to your formula, this should work (although again I did this pretty quickly - if anyone notices a mistake, please correct):

EV = (P * FE) + (((P + CA) * WP) - (SA * LP) * (1 - FE))

where:

P = Current Pot Size;
FE = Percentage opponent folds to hero's shove;
CA = Amount for opponent to call if hero shoves;
WP = Hero's win percentage when opponent calls hero's shove;
SA = The amount of hero's shove; and
LP = Hero's loss percentage when opponent calls hero's shove.

Last edited by Lego05; 04-25-2017 at 06:53 PM.
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04-25-2017 , 06:50 PM
Oh yes, I was wondering how to include the fold failure rate. Thanks.
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04-25-2017 , 07:00 PM
One quick question. When I count up the "Amount Won When Called" do I count the money that I put in + the money in his stack, or do I only put in the money in his stack?
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04-25-2017 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kombaiyashii
One quick question. When I count up the "Amount Won When Called" do I count the money that I put in + the money in his stack, or do I only put in the money in his stack?
Since Lego may not be available, I’ll answer.

EV = (Pot*Fold Success Rate %) + ((Amount Won When Called*Win Percentage) - (Amount Lost When Called*Loss Percentage) * Fold Failure Rate %)

Since you are referring to the above equation, the amount won when called is the pot before the shove + the amount villain has to call.

For the other equations he posted you have to be careful about the amounts, where if hero open shoves, for example, shove and call amounts are the effective stack.
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